If anyone believes Ethos will stick to increasing prices by no more than 10% a year they're dreaming. This is a private equity firm, not a non-profit.
Why I Voted to Sell .ORG
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Re: Why I Voted to Sell .ORG
#42This author is just outright naive. >Even in the worst case, if Ethos considers dramatically increasing prices (which, to be clear, we do not expect them to do!), the Registry Agreement for .org requires a 6-month notice period during which domain owners can lock in a 10-year registration at pre-increase rates. This should seriously discourage Ethos from doing this, because it would take 10 years for the new high rat…
> I would encourage people to look at what Ethos themselves have said about their intentions with regard to .org
> Make .org domain names "accessible and reasonably priced for all", including limiting price increases to no more than 10% per year
Just that statement alone means prices could double every 7 years.
Re: Why I Voted to Sell .ORG
#43Don't worry you guys .tor will just become stronger and we will get a free'er world, no?
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#44This is what happens when the PR or fund raising people get in charge of a charity - suddenly it becomes all about raising awareness or funds and not about doing....
Why provide a service ( like .org ) when you can 'raise awareness'? Or raise funds for others to do stuff.
The great thing about being the fund raising or awareness part is it's
1. where the money is
2. where the exposure is
3. and you have no responsibility for actually delivering stuff!!!
So you can justify higher salaries for the people running the charity....
Re: Why I Voted to Sell .ORG
#45This author is just outright naive. >Even in the worst case, if Ethos considers dramatically increasing prices (which, to be clear, we do not expect them to do!), the Registry Agreement for .org requires a 6-month notice period during which domain owners can lock in a 10-year registration at pre-increase rates. This should seriously discourage Ethos from doing this, because it would take 10 years for the new high rat…
It's just funny to me that he felt the need to start listing out his credentials before explaining his stand.
That's reasonable in this case, people often complain (and sometimes reasonably so) that the people in this bureaucratic entities are far removed from the "real world" and don't really understand what they're dealing with.
Re: Why I Voted to Sell .ORG
#46So basically his two reasons are: “they gave us money, and I think they’re worthy”
Re: Why I Voted to Sell .ORG
#47How relevant is a TLD anymore? There are so many options. Most people seem to use Google, and then after visiting the site, they use whatever the autocomplete in their address bar is. Or, they use an app. At least in India, I've seen most people doing this on their smartphones. Nobody likes to type in the address bar anymore.
What comes up in Google are websites, those websites are from a domain, those domains have a TLD.
Re: Why I Voted to Sell .ORG
#48> The Internet Society does great work protecting the Internet and bringing it to the people who need it most — work that is way more impactful than leasing domain names. This transaction secures that work's future and independence.
Is “lease” the understanding others have regarding the relationship among a registrar and registrant?
Isn’t the registrar intended to operate the supporting infrastructure and no more? Where does the concept of a “lease” enter the transaction?
Re: Why I Voted to Sell .ORG
#49> Make .org domain names "accessible and reasonably priced for all", including limiting price increases to no more than 10% per year This immediately stuck out to me as a really bad deal. Rising with inflation, somewhere between 1 and 4% per year, would essentially keep prices stable. This is tricky when selling internationally, but roughly possible. Rising by 10% each year is significantly faster than inflation, and…
Not sure why OP tosses out 10% price hikes per year as reassuring. Maybe he’s too rich to make sense of small amounts of money like this. Even $10 is a nontrivial sum in some underdeveloped countries as is.
Also, this is just “what Ethos themselves have said about their intentions with regard to .org”, and we all know how good for-profit entities are at keeping promises that affect their bottom line.
Re: Why I Voted to Sell .ORG
#50In which a patsy sets out the arguments by which he was manipulated. A large part of his motivation appears to be delusions of grandeur within an organization, the Internet Society, which, up to now, has been of no relevance whatsoever, and which has only now achieved a degree of prominence through an act of apparently naive stupidity.
Good point. They claim they need the money to further in their mission to improve the internet, but they’re throwing out the one good thing they’re well-known for doing (and I’m doing so, trashing their reputation amongst the public) in order to (so they claim) bankroll other things that most people have never heard of in relation to them. That’s an incredibly shortsighted gamble and reeks of excuses.