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Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Post by empath75 » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 1:30 AM UTC

ehsankia wrote: post #22

pwython wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sacha Baron Cohen recently called out jack and the other "silicon six." https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/21/sacha-baron-cohen-rips-on-fa...

Don't get me wrong, I love his work, but I don't really understand why what he has to say about tech is any more relevant than any other celebrity. It's not like he has some deeper insider knowledge of the subject.

He’s a smart, successful person who has spent some time thinking about it. It’s as useful as anyone else’s opinion. People who are ‘experts’ in these areas also tend to have biases. Nobody that works for any of those companies is going to give you a straight answer.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Post by joe_the_user » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 1:31 AM UTC

unicornporn wrote: post #81

Honest question: how do you people even cope with the crap results? I'm a StartPage user, but decided to try DDG for some time after the System1 debacle [1]. The Swedish localized search results are downright unusable compared to StartPage/Google. I'm really trying to give it a chance, but I keep reaching for SP in every other search. [1] https://reclaimthenet.org/startpage-buyout-ad-tech-company/

I too use DDG first and I'm just willing to suffer a bit 'till I use Google. Using DDG first at least keeps Google honest and they are only a click away on Firefox.

The thing that's saddest is not only are DDG results not as smart but they also seem dumbed-down in the fashion of Google - ie, too much "your search" --> "what we imagine you really want" --> "here's our curated list of things like this (and screw your actual keywords)"

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Post by unicornporn » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 1:37 AM UTC

lemming wrote: post #87

unicornporn wrote: post #81

Honest question: how do you people even cope with the crap results? I'm a StartPage user, but decided to try DDG for some time after the System1 debacle [1]. The Swedish localized search results are downright unusable compared to StartPage/Google. I'm really trying to give it a chance, but I keep reaching for SP in every other search. [1] https://reclaimthenet.org/startpage-buyout-ad-tech-company/

It's not just you. I sincerely believe in DDG's mission, but the sad truth is I just can't find what I want with it. Unfortunately there seems to be no good way to use Startpage with Safari either.

I'm not alone! Get Firefox and chose whatever search engine you like.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Post by krackers » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 1:38 AM UTC

godelski wrote: post #77

krackers wrote: post #43

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There was a rant by some other HN user about how DDG owns "duck.com" yet refuses to just point it to a search page.

duck.com DOES redirect to duckduckgo.com. IIRC Google used to own duck.com and wouldn't redirect, but once DDG got ownership they redirected it.

Visiting the page incognito, you're hit with a modal dialogue that you have to dismiss before you can search.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Post by zozbot234 » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 1:45 AM UTC

godelski wrote: post #77

krackers wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a rant by some other HN user about how DDG owns "duck.com" yet refuses to just point it to a search page.

duck.com DOES redirect to duckduckgo.com. IIRC Google used to own duck.com and wouldn't redirect, but once DDG got ownership they redirected it.

> IIRC Google used to own duck.com and wouldn't redirect

AIUI duck.com used to be a redirect-- to google.com. Very confusing for actual DDG users. IIRC Google got the domain as part of acquiring On2, some sort of video codec company, at a time when DDG wasn't nearly as popular as it is today.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Post by godelski » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 1:48 AM UTC

krackers wrote: post #94

godelski wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

duck.com DOES redirect to duckduckgo.com. IIRC Google used to own duck.com and wouldn't redirect, but once DDG got ownership they redirected it.

Visiting the page incognito, you're hit with a modal dialogue that you have to dismiss before you can search.

This does not happen in FireFox. Are you suggesting Google is still playing dumb games?

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Post by notus » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 1:50 AM UTC

unicornporn wrote: post #84

thephyber wrote: post #57

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DDG does use Bing for _some_ of their search results, but it's far from just a reskin.

DDG uses Bing, Yahoo! and Yandex for non bang searches[1]. As of October 2019, Yahoo! Search is once again “powered by Bing”[2]. To me, results are as crap as Bing's. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/duckduckgo/comments/6uaibg/comment/... [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Search

Bing is really good for porn for some reason

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Post by mxuribe » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 1:57 AM UTC

zokula wrote: post #65

It's too bad gullible people are falling for duckduckgo's so-called privacy promises.

Curious, what privacy promises do you believe DuckDuckGo won't fulfill? Genuinely interested to learn.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Post by jammygit » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 2:14 AM UTC

unicornporn wrote: post #81

Honest question: how do you people even cope with the crap results? I'm a StartPage user, but decided to try DDG for some time after the System1 debacle [1]. The Swedish localized search results are downright unusable compared to StartPage/Google. I'm really trying to give it a chance, but I keep reaching for SP in every other search. [1] https://reclaimthenet.org/startpage-buyout-ad-tech-company/

DDG isn’t as good at indexing various forms of social media, but is decent otherwise. I find it depends where my results live

Eg, Reddit, forums, stack overflow (sometimes), YouTube, etc

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Post by LegitShady » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 2:21 AM UTC

dasil003 wrote: post #66

LegitShady wrote: post #38

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Sasha Baron Cohen would not have been successful in the environment he now demands. He's a comedian not an expert in anything. Who cares what this guy has to say about Facebook? Why does his opinion matters more than mine or yours? I bet he knows even less.

We here on HN know a lot about how Facebook was built, that doesn't tell you shit about its societal effects. Comedians on the other hand, and Sasha Baron Cohen in particular, know a lot about societal effects. Sometimes the jester was the only one clever enough to get away with speaking the truth in the king's presence.

Cohen's comedies were hugely offensive. He starts off by making fun of young lower class people in britain, then gay people, then a specific eastern european country, etc etc.

He would not be successful in the world he now demands, and he is not a social expert hes a 'funny' man who spends his time on business deals and movies.

I'm jewish, I don't want him speaking for me. I'd rather sasha cohen be allowed to make offensive films and everyone else too.

He's no more expert than joe rogan or any other comedian.

He's just the one the ADL decided to use as a mouth piece for censorship, and as a jewish person I don't appreciate their pretending to have my best interests in mind while hurting the basic freedoms and ability for self expression of everyone in the country.

He's not brave and there's no king. he was celebrated for his comments. The things he's saying are only the words of a jester because he's a clown, not because they're wise.