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Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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post #36

I have mixed feelings about this. If you recommend DuckDuckGo, Qwant, Ecosia you're essentially recommending Bing. Each of them have to show bing ads, forward the users' IPs as per Bing's terms of service (to fight ad fraud etc). Similarly, if you recommend StartPage, you're recommending Google. Same drill with ads. I like DuckDuckGo. But unless they build their own search - I think the fundamental problem has not be…

AFAIK qwant is using its own engine

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#43
post #9

This is awesome - happy to see privacy oriented search become more popular. I think DuckDuckGo needs a better name though - Something more ubiquitous. Duck, maybe? Quack?

There was a rant by some other HN user about how DDG owns "duck.com" yet refuses to just point it to a search page.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#44
post #36

I have mixed feelings about this. If you recommend DuckDuckGo, Qwant, Ecosia you're essentially recommending Bing. Each of them have to show bing ads, forward the users' IPs as per Bing's terms of service (to fight ad fraud etc). Similarly, if you recommend StartPage, you're recommending Google. Same drill with ads. I like DuckDuckGo. But unless they build their own search - I think the fundamental problem has not be…

Aren't DuckDuckGo searches a mixture of Bing, Yahoo, Yandex and their own crawler?

I don't know a great deal about their infrastructure and would love to learn more about it.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#45
post #36

I have mixed feelings about this. If you recommend DuckDuckGo, Qwant, Ecosia you're essentially recommending Bing. Each of them have to show bing ads, forward the users' IPs as per Bing's terms of service (to fight ad fraud etc). Similarly, if you recommend StartPage, you're recommending Google. Same drill with ads. I like DuckDuckGo. But unless they build their own search - I think the fundamental problem has not be…

I'd rather 100 people know 1% about me than 1 person know 100% about me. Even if the only thing duckduckgo did was spread knowledge about me thinner, it would have value. Google already has most of my email (because most people I send emails to use gmail) and my youtube viewing history. Giving them my general search history as well isn't something I'm keen on.

Duckduckgo isn't perfect but they're better than google. If I knew of something better than duckduckgo, I'd use that instead. But I'm not going to let perfect be the enemy of good.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#46
post #36

I have mixed feelings about this. If you recommend DuckDuckGo, Qwant, Ecosia you're essentially recommending Bing. Each of them have to show bing ads, forward the users' IPs as per Bing's terms of service (to fight ad fraud etc). Similarly, if you recommend StartPage, you're recommending Google. Same drill with ads. I like DuckDuckGo. But unless they build their own search - I think the fundamental problem has not be…

> But unless they build their > own search

IIUC, they have built their own search, but use Bing(among others) for paid ads.

If this is the case, it seems that it’s the business model that needs innovation and not the search engine itself.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#47
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sacha Baron Cohen recently called out jack and the other "silicon six." https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/21/sacha-baron-cohen-rips-on-fa...

Don't get me wrong, I love his work, but I don't really understand why what he has to say about tech is any more relevant than any other celebrity. It's not like he has some deeper insider knowledge of the subject.

Because he has an audience and a platform.

Brands pay a lot of money for influencer endorsements.

Think of his as one and you will see the marketing value of this as it relates to people who want to see privacy issues advanced.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#48
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sacha Baron Cohen recently called out jack and the other "silicon six." https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/21/sacha-baron-cohen-rips-on-fa...

Don't get me wrong, I love his work, but I don't really understand why what he has to say about tech is any more relevant than any other celebrity. It's not like he has some deeper insider knowledge of the subject.

Your comment is a perfect example of an ad hominem fallacy. A form of rhetoric, which is exactly what he is calling out.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#50
post #46
post #36

I have mixed feelings about this. If you recommend DuckDuckGo, Qwant, Ecosia you're essentially recommending Bing. Each of them have to show bing ads, forward the users' IPs as per Bing's terms of service (to fight ad fraud etc). Similarly, if you recommend StartPage, you're recommending Google. Same drill with ads. I like DuckDuckGo. But unless they build their own search - I think the fundamental problem has not be…

> But unless they build their > own search IIUC, they have built their own search, but use Bing(among others) for paid ads. If this is the case, it seems that it’s the business model that needs innovation and not the search engine itself.

Try to run this test. If you query "what is my ip" in duckduckgo, or any of the other ones I mentioned, you will notice in the description of one of the top results this IP: 207.46.13.147. It's a BingBot IP [0]. It's a good enough test to spot where results are coming from.

[0] https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/207.46.13.147

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