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Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#32
Searching google nowadays feels like searching an ad database. For me it isn't even a matter of privacy but about exclusion of 90% of the web out there. Bing is not bad either, nor is yandex. What else is there? Remember when google was like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8JT9QWA-eY

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#33
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post #6

Yes @jack yes! Hopefully more high-profile thought leaders will enter the public discourse to advise on more sane, privacy-respecting alternatives. I'm glad I was relieved of hating @jack at least momentarily. :')

May I ask why hate @jack ?

At the risk of setting fire to and already smouldering dumpster, but Jack's company has a recent chequered history of suspending and banning biological women's and feminist rights accounts for pushing back against MRA's and the extreme end of the TRA movement for disagreeing that biological sex is a spectrum, and pushing back against the idea that protected biological women's spaces should be available to anyone who claims they are a woman but still has a penis attached (e.g. rape centres).

See also the continued attacks on biological women by not banning or suspending accounts that use TERF as a slur or pejorative. And see also the banning of Meghan Murphy and actual intersex person who has objected to the hijacking of intersex people's medical conditions by TRA extremists (Stonewall, sadly and Mermaids) to justify their pseudo-science that biological sex is a spectrum.

Jack knows this stuff well and simply won't stand up in support of biological women's hard fought rights to not have penises in their gradually eroded protected spaces.

Sorry dang, had to answer the question.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#34
post #4

Duckduckgo is great. But also because the easy !g !gi !tw shortcuts to search in google or twitter as well. Surprised to find lately that a lot of my searches only return relevant results in a twitter search.

it's like using "reddit" on google to force it to be serious

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#35
post #11

Given the amount of M$ ads DDG has showing latelly does not surprises me they might be partnering with bing.

For more info: https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/company/ad...

Search for:

1. "fix incorrect mayonese".

2. "fix incorrect lazagna"

and compare with:

1. "fix incorrect mayonnaise".

2. "fix incorrect lasagna"

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#36
I have mixed feelings about this. If you recommend DuckDuckGo, Qwant, Ecosia you're essentially recommending Bing. Each of them have to show bing ads, forward the users' IPs as per Bing's terms of service (to fight ad fraud etc). Similarly, if you recommend StartPage, you're recommending Google. Same drill with ads.

I like DuckDuckGo. But unless they build their own search - I think the fundamental problem has not been tackled. There is no good, independent, private search alternative.

[Edit] I am not trying to single out DDG. There are a few replies that either demand for proof (rightfully) or suggest Bing is used only sometimes. I do not have conclusive proof, but have worked on search. Here's a couple of things for the curious:

1. Try to run this test: If you query "what is my ip" in duckduckgo (DDG), or any of the other ones I mentioned, you will notice in the description of one of the top results this IP: 207.46.13.147. It's a BingBot IP [0]. It's a good enough test to spot where results are coming from.

2. Open two browser windows side by side with DDG and Bing. Turn on results for the country you are in in DDG. Look attentively. Try image search.

It is clear that DDG does some re-ranking based on its own, but it's very often the same results.

[0] https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/207.46.13.147

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#38
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

May I ask why hate @jack ?

Sacha Baron Cohen recently called out jack and the other "silicon six." https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/21/sacha-baron-cohen-rips-on-fa...

Sasha Baron Cohen would not have been successful in the environment he now demands. He's a comedian not an expert in anything.

Who cares what this guy has to say about Facebook? Why does his opinion matters more than mine or yours? I bet he knows even less.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#39
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't get me wrong, I love his work, but I don't really understand why what he has to say about tech is any more relevant than any other celebrity. It's not like he has some deeper insider knowledge of the subject.

From the Anti-Defamation League: > Sacha Baron Cohen is the well-deserved recipient of ADL’s International Leadership Award, which goes to exceptional individuals who combine professional success with a profound personal commitment to community involvement and to crossing borders and barriers with a message of diversity and equal opportunity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymaWq5yZIYM

Argument from authority from someone else. This isn't a logical argument.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#40
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sacha Baron Cohen recently called out jack and the other "silicon six." https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/21/sacha-baron-cohen-rips-on-fa...

Don't get me wrong, I love his work, but I don't really understand why what he has to say about tech is any more relevant than any other celebrity. It's not like he has some deeper insider knowledge of the subject.

He gets into the relevant details in his speech at below timestamp [1]:

> "Just imagine what Goebbels [2] could have done with Facebook"

I think the bottom line is he is good at social engineering, and he recognizes the signs of manipulation at scale. Beyond that, he is smart enough to consume the literature.

Note: Video is his award speech from ADL. But has sensitive wording and is NSFW. I found it to be pretty well put together - maybe reaching a bit in parts.

[1] - https://youtu.be/ymaWq5yZIYM?t=247

[2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels

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