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Facebook Portal – Privacy review

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Re: Facebook Portal – Privacy review

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

jmiskovic wrote: post #34
dessant wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stadia is a dream come true for Google. Collecting all that personal data at scale about how people interact with virtual environments and how they react to certain situations will give them an unprecedented look into human nature. Ads and product placements is AAA games is also fairly untapped territory, this is why I'm doubtful that Google will give up on this opportunity and shut down Stadia, as some people have p…

Speaking of product placement in games, I also find it untapped and potentially huge market, not just in AAA games. I mean, if there's a car in the game, why not make it Renault to sponsor development? It seems vastly better than obnoxious ad banners or freemium whale hunting. Is there anything morally problematic with it?

Transaction costs, mostly. It's hard to connect developers and advertisers at scale. It's also difficult technically, does every car in a game need to look the same now?

Like, I totally think someone could make money from this, but it's unlikely to be as profitable as whale-hunting so it probably won't happen for a while.

Re: Facebook Portal – Privacy review

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Post by qubex »

This... thing in your house is only one Privacy Terms & Conditions update away from tailoring ads to scare you into voting for whichever political candidate promises to not pursue Facebook with an AntiTrust lawsuit. If that isn’t terrifying, I don’t know what is.

Re: Facebook Portal – Privacy review

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Post by Havoc »

dpcan wrote: post #7

I cannot even think of a single person in any of my networks of people who would buy this and put it in their home. It has "hell no" written all over it. It's almost arrogant or bizarre that they would try to launch such a product given how people feel about Facebook and privacy. I suppose it's simply to satisfy shareholders who think Facebook needs to compete in this market???? It's the Zune of the Living-Room Assis…

>I cannot even think of a single person in any of my networks of people who would buy this and put it in their home

And yet Alexa, Siri etc are fine to many

Re: Facebook Portal – Privacy review

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Post by mistermann »

gonehome wrote: post #47
earino wrote: post #20

This title is somewhat problematic. It makes it sound like the portal has "privacy not included" and yet that is the name of the blog. In fact, the Portal meets the Mozilla Foundation's "Minimum Security Standards". It gets a yes for encryption, security updates, strong password, manages vulnerabilities and a privacy policy! This is honestly kind of cruddy. You can feel however you want to feel about Facebook, but th…

Yeah I’ve seen this twice now for the portal (some CNET article saying people shouldn’t buy it, but not actually reviewing the hardware). It’s annoying because the portal hardware is actually really great. I got the big one for my mom and I have the TV one and they work extremely well. I was looking for something that did what the portal does on the consumer market about a year before it came out and nothing existed.…

How does the picture look on the TV one, like does it look like a decent enough, crisp HD image? (And on what size TV are you running it?)

Re: Facebook Portal – Privacy review

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Post by gonehome »

mistermann wrote: post #94
gonehome wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I’ve seen this twice now for the portal (some CNET article saying people shouldn’t buy it, but not actually reviewing the hardware). It’s annoying because the portal hardware is actually really great. I got the big one for my mom and I have the TV one and they work extremely well. I was looking for something that did what the portal does on the consumer market about a year before it came out and nothing existed.…

How does the picture look on the TV one, like does it look like a decent enough, crisp HD image? (And on what size TV are you running it?)

I run it on a 65" 4k TV (specifically the LG E6 OLED) - it looks sharp and does a good job, but I do have it sitting next to the wireless access point.

Also since I mostly communicate with my mom who is using her big portal the quality is pretty good (since the camera on that one is pretty good).

Re: Facebook Portal – Privacy review

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Post by gonehome »

monkeynotes wrote: post #61
zhobbs wrote: post #45

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I'm considering purchasing one. In general, I value convenience and personalization over privacy. I completely don't relate to the idea of relevant ads being a bad thing. Anyways, as someone who spends a lot of time panning a laptop or iPad to track a toddler who is FaceTiming grandma, this device solves an important problem for us.

I think this is the truth of the world we live in. People want this stuff so bad that they are willing to give away a lot in exchange. The other component is apathy, many people are just resigned to the fact that they will be surveilled one way or another. I can foresee huge implications for all of this, it doesn't take much to get from here to using these devices to aid law enforcement. I know the argument is 'if yo…

I think there are also acceptable trade-offs.

The video is encrypted and content from the call cannot be used. If this was not the case I wouldn't buy it.

The other things they say they'll use from it are in line with what I already expect from having a FB account in the first place.

The portal even has a built in camera cover/off switch in hardware.

Re: Facebook Portal – Privacy review

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Post by earino »

dang wrote: post #85
earino wrote: post #20

This title is somewhat problematic. It makes it sound like the portal has "privacy not included" and yet that is the name of the blog. In fact, the Portal meets the Mozilla Foundation's "Minimum Security Standards". It gets a yes for encryption, security updates, strong password, manages vulnerabilities and a privacy policy! This is honestly kind of cruddy. You can feel however you want to feel about Facebook, but th…

We've changed the title to take out the name of the blog and say what's in the post.

That's cool, thank you!

Re: Facebook Portal – Privacy review

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Post by frenchyatwork »

warkdarrior wrote: post #42
SN76477 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are just following along with their mission statement. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/ Our mission: Keep the internet open and accessible to all.

How does privacy fit into their mission of keeping the Internet open and accessible? It is an orthogonal issue.

Because some users value privacy, and if you can't access the web without interacting with Google or Facebook, then you have a problem.
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