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China's growing threat to academic freedom

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Re: China's growing threat to academic freedom

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post #15

Hardly a "growing threat" to academic freedom in a country that has never properly had it in the first place.

It is a growing threat when that reach starts extending outside their boarders.

Sure, but that isn't happening here. According to the title, the guy was in China, and got arrested there. It shouldn't be any surprise that if you enter an oppressive nation with material they've banned, you'll be subject to arrest.

Re: China's growing threat to academic freedom

#23
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a growing threat when that reach starts extending outside their boarders.

Sure, but that isn't happening here. According to the title, the guy was in China, and got arrested there. It shouldn't be any surprise that if you enter an oppressive nation with material they've banned, you'll be subject to arrest.

If you progress farther than the title, you may discover that the official banned book was legally purchased by the professor at a Chinese book store. I think most of use from non-totalitarian states would be a rather surprised if that happened to us. The article goes on the suggest that the police thought he fit the profile of someone doing bad stuff, and made up a charge that fit the criminal persona they’d pegged on him.

Re: China's growing threat to academic freedom

#24
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that there's no list of forbidden books, nor any realistic way of determining beforehand whether a specific book would be considered detrimental to China's security or otherwise would be illegal, is it actually a law? I am inclined to contrast it to what it's like in my own country. Canada, of course like every country, has a variety of laws that prohibit certain kinds of expression. The difference is that, whi…

Maybe. I recall shortly after sept 11th 2001 when there was general panic in the US, some guy there was arrested for possessing a book. He'd just taken it out of the library. Here in the UK there are deliberate 'chilling effect' laws which are meant to discourage trying something by making them sufficiently unspecified as to catch anything the government wants to (heard about these on the radio 4 programme 'file on 4…

Someone was tried for downloading a copy of the Anarchist's Cookbook last year in the UK, IIRC.

Sorry, it was 2017.

Amazon didn't get shut down for selling it though, strange that. It's almost like totalitarians like to keep laws on the book they can whip out when they want to use them.

Reportedly you can be charged for "possessing information that could be used by a terrorist", a cached copy of a Lockpicking Lawyer vid from YouTube, maybe. Lock me away!

Re: China's growing threat to academic freedom

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a growing threat when that reach starts extending outside their boarders.

Sure, but that isn't happening here. According to the title, the guy was in China, and got arrested there. It shouldn't be any surprise that if you enter an oppressive nation with material they've banned, you'll be subject to arrest.

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Re: China's growing threat to academic freedom

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post #10

Anyone know what parts specifically of the KMT’s story are “left out” in the version of history promulgated by the PRC, such that a full accounting would be risky? My first guess: the strong affiliation between Sun Yat-sen and the party, since the CCP still seems to respect Sun and his Three Principles and use (their interpretations of) them to justify CCP tentpoles.

From what I hear, the CCP is displayed as bearing the brunt of the Japanese assault in Chinese textbooks, with the KMT only playing a minor role. I guess they want to avoid the KMT looking like war heroes whose weakness after the war was abused by the CCP to seize power.

EDIT: For anyone interested in the Second Sino-Japanese War and the civil war that followed it, HistoryLapse (by HN user domnuprofesor) ran an interesting series of articles, starting with this one: https://en.historylapse.org/japanese-invasion-of-china-durin...

Re: China's growing threat to academic freedom

#29
post #26

What’s missing from this article is that Nobu Iwatani previously worked for defense and foreign ministries in Japan. He is no “civilian”.

This is the same argument used by some to claim that Huawei is the extended arm of Chinese surveillance agencies (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20366883 ) and I don't think it's very convincing. Work for the government once, lose civilian status forever?

Re: China's growing threat to academic freedom

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post #10

Anyone know what parts specifically of the KMT’s story are “left out” in the version of history promulgated by the PRC, such that a full accounting would be risky? My first guess: the strong affiliation between Sun Yat-sen and the party, since the CCP still seems to respect Sun and his Three Principles and use (their interpretations of) them to justify CCP tentpoles.

They don't and can't deny the affiliation between Sun Yat-Sen and the KMT since it's clear Sun founded the KMT. Rather, they place most of the blame on Chiang Kai Shek for starting anti-Communist campaigns in the 1920s such as the Shanghai Massacre[1]. Indeed communist members dominated the left wing of the KMT before Sun died.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_massacre

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