The Danger of “Simplicity”

Post by tabtab » Mon, Nov 25, 2019, 6:36 PM UTC

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Re: "Lisp isn't more productive just because..." Whether Lisp or functional programming is "more productive" in general or just in the hands of a few is a controversial topic. Example debates: https://wiki.c2.com/?IfFooIsSoGreatHowComeYouAreNotRich https://wiki.c2.com/?GreatLispWar I personally find functional harder to debug and haven't got past that bottleneck yet. Yes, maybe I'm "doing it wrong", but can't find "r…

One of the reasons I hover in the space of semi-functonal languages like Groovy and Scala. Because as much as I love concisely expressing a piece of complex logic as a composition of reduces, folds, maps etc., being able to easily and naturally break out of that to execute a piece of imperative code in the middle of it is still regularly a life saver to me and often an order of magnitude clearer than the pure functio…

I lot of the time it seems programmers are just avoiding using SQL to do query-centric processing (slicing and dicing lists). Aside from performance problems, another downside is that one reinvents query language idioms in each programming language. It increases the learning curve and is anti-standardization.

Post by austincheney » Wed, Nov 27, 2019, 3:06 PM UTC

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When a metric is quantifiable with numbers it is objective. It may not be the best tool for the job or even valid at all, but it is still objective. Subjectivity, on the other hand, means to prioritize a content or bias above its measures.

The problem is that no matter which metric you choose, I can pick another one leading me to have opposite outcomes in a manner that you cannot argue with. The importance of your objective metric will still be subjective based on how important I think each metric system is. Making the entire thing subjective.

You are confusing cause and effect. The measure itself is the objective part. What you do or what you believe from that number is the subjective part.

If objectivity were important to you then you would use many measures.

Re: The Danger of “Simplicity”

Re: The Danger of “Simplicity”