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Facebook's only Dutch factchecker quits over political ad exemption

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Re: Facebook's only Dutch factchecker quits over political ad exemption

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Post by benmmurphy »

oefrha wrote: post #9
rimliu wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you provide some facts that would be subjective?

Let’s ignore all the complexity surrounding facts and just assume facts are obtainable and 100% objective. With 100% objective facts, media outlets still wield a huge amount of power through cherry-picking and spinning. Example: You live in a group A (party, country, etc.) echo chamber where every day you’re bombarded with news on evil thing X group B just did, which is a fact. What they don’t tell you is that group…

slatestarcodex has a good article discussing this problem which they have labeled the 'chinese robber fallacy'. https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/09/16/cardiologists-and-chin...

Re: Facebook's only Dutch factchecker quits over political ad exemption

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Post by polski-g »

bilekas wrote: post #12

I just can't get my head around why political speech is permitted to be false.. Have Facebook ever actually given any solid reasons for this decision?

Because truth is subjective.

"Trump is racist" a statement of fact. But it's entirely subjective.

Re: Facebook's only Dutch factchecker quits over political ad exemption

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Post by c72a7fd0 »

bilekas wrote: post #12

I just can't get my head around why political speech is permitted to be false.. Have Facebook ever actually given any solid reasons for this decision?

People should be allowed to be wrong. It's that simple. If you disagree with this you're not a very good person (fact).

Re: Facebook's only Dutch factchecker quits over political ad exemption

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Post by macspoofing »

bilekas wrote: post #12

I just can't get my head around why political speech is permitted to be false.. Have Facebook ever actually given any solid reasons for this decision?

>I just can't get my head around why political speech is permitted to be false..

What do you mean by 'permitted'?

Facts within the political sphere need to be interpreted with the lens of your political ideology because politics are not a rational game. Political beliefs are emotional even if the proponents claim otherwise. For example, take the statement "Homelessness in San Francisco is due to rising inequality, cost of living, and gentrification." .. How does Facebook apply a truth value to that? What do you think the truth value of that statement is? What do you think your ideological opposite would claim?

>Have Facebook ever actually given any solid reasons for this decision?

It's obvious. Politics are toxic, divisive and emotional. ANY decision you make is guaranteed to piss off a large segment of your users.

Re: Facebook's only Dutch factchecker quits over political ad exemption

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Post by bilekas »

c72a7fd0 wrote: post #16
bilekas wrote: post #12

I just can't get my head around why political speech is permitted to be false.. Have Facebook ever actually given any solid reasons for this decision?

People should be allowed to be wrong. It's that simple. If you disagree with this you're not a very good person (fact).

Well why fact check anything then ?

If you're going to do it as a company, I don't know why you have two standards..

Re: Facebook's only Dutch factchecker quits over political ad exemption

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Post by bilekas »

polski-g wrote: post #15
bilekas wrote: post #12

I just can't get my head around why political speech is permitted to be false.. Have Facebook ever actually given any solid reasons for this decision?

Because truth is subjective. "Trump is racist" a statement of fact. But it's entirely subjective.

> Because truth is subjective.

no... It's not.. Thats the point.

Things are not marked (legitemately) as fake based on opinion..

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