Facebook's only Dutch factchecker quits over political ad exemption
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Re: Facebook's only Dutch factchecker quits over political ad exemption
#2Imagine the years of training and sheer innate genius that the people at nu.nl must have had to make them appropriate arbiters of truth and fairness in the news. And while these giants of verity at nu.nl could have been expending their talents of truth and reason in physics, or medicine, or even making money in business, instead they choose to run an online news website. What a blessed country the Netherlands is.
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#5Fact-checking is misleading, because it makes some people believe that facts are completely objective and you can verify or disprove them without any bias. In the end, most fact-checking outlets just repeat propaganda of the political parties they align with.
Re: Facebook's only Dutch factchecker quits over political ad exemption
#6Nu.nl is the news-outlet with least journalistic activity of all publications in NL. It is basically a one-on-one copy of AP.
Re: Facebook's only Dutch factchecker quits over political ad exemption
#7Fact-checking is misleading, because it makes some people believe that facts are completely objective and you can verify or disprove them without any bias. In the end, most fact-checking outlets just repeat propaganda of the political parties they align with.
Can you provide some facts that would be subjective?
Re: Facebook's only Dutch factchecker quits over political ad exemption
#8Fact-checking is misleading, because it makes some people believe that facts are completely objective and you can verify or disprove them without any bias. In the end, most fact-checking outlets just repeat propaganda of the political parties they align with.
Can you provide some facts that would be subjective?
If you pay attention to snopes you will see on some of their fact checks of politically controversial topics they will take this line where they will either weak man a position or strong man a position depending on what result they want to produce.
Re: Facebook's only Dutch factchecker quits over political ad exemption
#9Fact-checking is misleading, because it makes some people believe that facts are completely objective and you can verify or disprove them without any bias. In the end, most fact-checking outlets just repeat propaganda of the political parties they align with.
Can you provide some facts that would be subjective?
Example: You live in a group A (party, country, etc.) echo chamber where every day you’re bombarded with news on evil thing X group B just did, which is a fact. What they don’t tell you is that group A is also doing X, or doing some more egregious thing Y. They didn’t lie to you, they just omitted the full picture. After a while, you’ll inevitably believe group B is the root of all evil, and even if you’re then presented 100% facts about how group A did all the evil things from a group B publication, you’ll probably dismiss those.
In short, not necessarily agreeing with gp, but it’s certainly very complicated.
Re: Facebook's only Dutch factchecker quits over political ad exemption
#10Fact-checking is misleading, because it makes some people believe that facts are completely objective and you can verify or disprove them without any bias. In the end, most fact-checking outlets just repeat propaganda of the political parties they align with.
Can you provide some facts that would be subjective?
Here's a common set of "subjective facts": "Policy X will help group Y in manner Z." along with "Politician A voted against X and therefore hates Y." As I've commented before, even the apparent objective fact that "Politician A voted against X" isn't necessarily as factual as it may seem since it's a common tactic to have X bundled in with a whole bunch of other things, and you don't know whether A voted against X, or voted against boondoggle B buried in the bill, or if X was in fact the only thing the politician agreed with in the entire bill and was forced to vote against it because everything else was worse, or if they agreed with X and voted against it as part of some other political deal, or what. Even the "bare fact" "Politician A voted against X" can be treated in a way that turns it into an effective lie, even if it is nominally 100% true. That is the sort of "fact" we deal with in the media environment all the time, and it isn't as objective as we'd like it to be.