Oh Wikileaks, why would you publish more material that harms the leaders of the Russian state? It's as if you don't even care that you're contradicting the constant media accounts of your pro-Russian bias. Corporate-media stenographers have families to feed!
Russian whistleblower was assassinated after uncovering $200B scandal (2018)
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
But with this mentality corruption will just go unchallenged. Its a huge risk, but the rewards for removing such a big chunk of corruption is huge. So I guess you're right, it is more of a mindset thing.
> reward This person is dead. We can thus deduce the reward is death. While that is a big reward, it's not one most people want.
> This person is dead. We can thus deduce the reward is death.
You're mixing reward with outcome. The outcome is that the person was murdered. That's something entirely different from a reward.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
But with this mentality corruption will just go unchallenged. Its a huge risk, but the rewards for removing such a big chunk of corruption is huge. So I guess you're right, it is more of a mindset thing.
> reward This person is dead. We can thus deduce the reward is death. While that is a big reward, it's not one most people want.
Maybe living with knowing about the thing was worse than the one time event of death?
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#14All tax money in Russia and elsewhere is stolen and therefore dirty and corrupt to begin with anyway. Try not paying taxes and you'll get jailed -- and if you refuse this you'll get gunned down.
I think doing anything you can to avoid paying taxes without getting yourself into trouble is a moral obligation.
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#15Uncover the theft of hundreds of thousands will get you a bonus. Uncover the theft of millions will get you a big promotion. Uncover the theft of billions by corrupt state actors and international crime syndicates is only ever going to get you dead. Perhaps I have a different mindset, but if I had been looking into this, I think I would have stopped digging as soon as I got a hint of how deep this rabbit hole actuall…
Хорошо сказал, товарищ.
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#17All tax money in Russia and elsewhere is stolen and therefore dirty and corrupt to begin with anyway. Try not paying taxes and you'll get jailed -- and if you refuse this you'll get gunned down. I think doing anything you can to avoid paying taxes without getting yourself into trouble is a moral obligation.
Avoidance has bad connotations, tax optimization is a better term.
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#18Uncover the theft of hundreds of thousands will get you a bonus. Uncover the theft of millions will get you a big promotion. Uncover the theft of billions by corrupt state actors and international crime syndicates is only ever going to get you dead. Perhaps I have a different mindset, but if I had been looking into this, I think I would have stopped digging as soon as I got a hint of how deep this rabbit hole actuall…
This is why humanity invented the Hero. We recognize that irrational selflessness can be extremely beneficial for society. The more heroes we have, the less corrupt the system, the stakes of corruption would be lower and the price of heroism should decrease, thus society at large and these selfless heros will probably benefit together.
There is significant and maybe a majority of people who have flexible morality. CA-50 re-elected a congressmen who was under indicted for corruption and theft of campaign funds. A CIA whistleblower is in hiding and career military officer in under protection for reporting or testifying about corruption at the white house. Hero only exists if a significant majority of society has capability to distinguish right from wrong. Otherwise it will get rolled up into partisan politics and tribalism.
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#19Sure, in Russia they are assassinated and in the USA they fall victims to botched robberies ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Seth_Rich ), so the US media tell us.
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#20Uncover the theft of hundreds of thousands will get you a bonus. Uncover the theft of millions will get you a big promotion. Uncover the theft of billions by corrupt state actors and international crime syndicates is only ever going to get you dead. Perhaps I have a different mindset, but if I had been looking into this, I think I would have stopped digging as soon as I got a hint of how deep this rabbit hole actuall…
People don't buy $200 billion worth of drugs. To get that much, the nation state and oligarchs need to be rigging the economy and stealing with massive crony capitalism.