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Re: I'm not burned out, I'm pissed off

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Post by badpun »

saiya-jin wrote: post #105
czechdeveloper wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This I don't understand. You are interested in economy and politics, yet you don't know how to file taxes. Is that not connected? If you understand mechanics, yet can't do maintenance on your car, not even talking about fixing anything. This level of theoretical knowledge that can't overreach to reality to do basic tasks seems just irrelevant to me. What is it good for apart of talking about it?

General curiosity in some topic? I can talk quite a bit about firearms, ammunition etc. yet I never owned a gun, shot altogether maybe 5-8 rounds in my whole life (apart from BB gun). I like watching youtube channels like Demolition ranch or Iraqveteran8888 for their technical expertise, viewpoints and just fun. Without any real expectation to ever own a gun to expand on this knowledge. Maybe some nice bow one day (w…

Is somebody who watches people draw in their youtube channels interested in drawing, or in watching people draw? I'd say it's the latter.

Re: I'm not burned out, I'm pissed off

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Post by czechdeveloper »

saiya-jin wrote: post #105
czechdeveloper wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This I don't understand. You are interested in economy and politics, yet you don't know how to file taxes. Is that not connected? If you understand mechanics, yet can't do maintenance on your car, not even talking about fixing anything. This level of theoretical knowledge that can't overreach to reality to do basic tasks seems just irrelevant to me. What is it good for apart of talking about it?

General curiosity in some topic? I can talk quite a bit about firearms, ammunition etc. yet I never owned a gun, shot altogether maybe 5-8 rounds in my whole life (apart from BB gun). I like watching youtube channels like Demolition ranch or Iraqveteran8888 for their technical expertise, viewpoints and just fun. Without any real expectation to ever own a gun to expand on this knowledge. Maybe some nice bow one day (w…

I could not figure out an argument without sounding too confrontational toward you or OP, so sorry :).

But if your knowledge can't fulfill your need in same field, what is that knowledge for, or is that even actual knowledge?

Re: I'm not burned out, I'm pissed off

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Post by WJW »

czechdeveloper wrote: post #98
Iv wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thing is, it took me a long time to accept that people not caring was ok. Now I realize that my dad is frustrated I never learned something as simple as changing the oil on my car. My mom does not understand how I can't name more than two flowers and can't bake a pie. My legal-minded friends are astounded I do not take a day to work on my legal status to pay less taxes. Hell, my wife does the paperwork I am not even…

This I don't understand. You are interested in economy and politics, yet you don't know how to file taxes. Is that not connected? If you understand mechanics, yet can't do maintenance on your car, not even talking about fixing anything. This level of theoretical knowledge that can't overreach to reality to do basic tasks seems just irrelevant to me. What is it good for apart of talking about it?

There is joy to be had in just learning something. For some people, the knowledge is its own reward. Other people see knowledge only as a tool to achieve things they want.

Based on your respective comments, I'd expect that the writer of the grandparent comment is the former type, while you are more the second type. Both are fine.

Re: I'm not burned out, I'm pissed off

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Post by intc »

slimed wrote: post #50
chahex wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are not talking about the same problem. Yo are not seeing the fact that it is only you who are responsible for what’s happening inside you . And you are taking the wrong path fixing that by fixing everything else but you.

Agree to disagree. Anger is quite useful.

Hmm. Anger is a byproduct of fear. Fear is a signal.

Victory achieved with the power of anger will not last for long?

My suggestion is to take distance towards things that keep us busy, stressed and angry.

This usually reduces the stress levels so much that some of the healthy and objective thinking capacity is gained. Can take some time though. Weeks. Even months. There is time!

In many cases we'll find that there indeed was something which is "side railed" within. And other things which are less than optimal with the outside world too. =)

Both aspects are equally important from our individual perspective.

What is inside we have better control for (though sometimes it really requires effort and patience to change even these things).

What is outside we can possibly start to bend according to our vision.

Before we start to bend outside, it would be good if we are clear within.

All that being said - This indeed can be the moment from which things start to turn to much better direction in so many ways. So perhaps even anger has it's purpose. Not as a tool, but as a initiator.

Godspeed!

Re: I'm not burned out, I'm pissed off

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Post by hexxiiiz »

While a lot of what the author notes about the issues with security are reasonable complaints, it sounds like the real problem is that the author is burned out because of how all of these underlying issues are dumped onto him as his problems. The real problem is not all of these real world issues that end up effecting him, it is that his work relationships and responsibilities turn these technical issues into personal ones. His response is not to really level with his boss and negotiate a better work circumstance, but instead to vent about how it is the fault of the technical integrity of the entire industry that he has to deal with his boss, his clients, and his workloads. The real problem with the industry is that too few people in it manage interpersonal expectations and boundaries. Instead, it's all too common to hear people in this space to transform interpersonal issues into obnoxious technical gripes, and that only enables the interpersonal dimension to erode further.

Re: I'm not burned out, I'm pissed off

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Post by codingdave »

etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #8

I think this person should seek happiness in ways that don't involve technology.

I don't think they are unhappy. I think they see an opportunity, and this is a setup for an upcoming post where they announce the new product to fix the concerns.

Re: I'm not burned out, I'm pissed off

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Post by eithed »

raducu wrote: post #25
Simon321 wrote: post #18

If you work in security, this resonates so much. No one really cares about security except to check a box or pay lip service to it. That's why so called security products ship without logging and clients don't want to make the smallest effort to enable you to improve their security. It's why companies that sell security products invest more in marketing than the product. The industry is full of conmen and marketeers.…

I work as a contractor for a bank. A few months ago everybody was up in arms about a "major" security issue discovered by an auditor (you could see the settings of random users by changing an id in a url). I've just shown them you can credit money to your account, yet this is low priority and they provided a fix that I'm 100% percent sure didn't fix anything, unfortunately the functionality is down on all but the pro…

Not to downplay the issue in question, but you have to be realistic about prioritazation. An exploit of "if I change variable in URL I can see other people data" trumps "if I make multiple concurrent requests with specific input I can give myself monies". I guess not by much, depending on the complexity involved and the know how required to carry one vs the other. Another thing all together is who reported the issue - sometimes it's more of a PR experience, depending on the company

Re: I'm not burned out, I'm pissed off

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Post by TeMPOraL »

hexxiiiz wrote: post #117

While a lot of what the author notes about the issues with security are reasonable complaints, it sounds like the real problem is that the author is burned out because of how all of these underlying issues are dumped onto him as his problems. The real problem is not all of these real world issues that end up effecting him, it is that his work relationships and responsibilities turn these technical issues into persona…

I don't know... The opposite of doing what the author does would be what? Arrange his work so that it's not all his problems? Adopt the mindset of "code to spec, collect paycheck"? To me, the author comes across as caring. They care about the actual value of the work they're doing, beyond their salary. We desperately need more people like that in this industry, because a lot of problems essentially boil down to it being full of people who don't care in the slightest.
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