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I'm not burned out, I'm pissed off

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Re: I'm not burned out, I'm pissed off

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Post by quaquaqua1 »

etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #8

I think this person should seek happiness in ways that don't involve technology.

>I'm pissed off that my clients don't seem to take it seriously, and I'm pissed off that the vendors don't seem to want to help.

Yes, I 100% agree with your assessment of this person's post. They are running into what I would call, "the horrible realities of business", which have nothing to do with putting in too many hard hours at work and everything to do with being forced to deal with unethical/deliberately lazy people in the day to day of being a worker

Re: I'm not burned out, I'm pissed off

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Post by psilocipher »

Any Wordpress site is essentially a hacker honeypot that will ultimately cost your organization far more than it might save you if you actually try to use it as a content management system. WP should come pre-configured with the very good "WP Cerber" security plugin, and force you to choose a random login URL. Otherwise it's only a matter of time before you are hacked. 5,000,000 lines of auto-updating PHP? Good luck securing that. I have been forced to support 2 WP websites for the last 2 years and they are attacked thousands of times a day simply because they report themselves to the world they are Wordpress sites. WP Cerber allows you to upload the original code for plugins and themes and can then scan them for unexpected changes. The effort required to maintain the security of Wordpress FAR exceeds any value you might extract from it being "Free".

Re: I'm not burned out, I'm pissed off

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Post by javajosh »

ailideex wrote: post #6
javajosh wrote: post #5

This is the down-side of artificial scarcity for software. The upside is that sweet sweet green. If you could remain cynical a few years longer, scrimp and save like 10 years of a comfy mid 6 figure salary, you'd stop caring about the BS, and you'd might even learn to love it (or even contribute to it!) After all, nothing quite feels as good as being a well-paid expert in a complicated field, especially when it grows…

> artificial scarcity for software Can you elaborate on this? Why would you say there is artificial scarcity for software?

Software costs ~0 to copy and distribute absolutely perfect copies, world-wide. To drive the price up you create artificial scarcity, mostly rooted in IP law.

Important note for HN readers: 'driving the price up' is a net benefit for programmers. Artificial scarcity is why you get paid big bucks.

Interestingly, data is legitimately scarce. But that's a discussion for another time...

Re: I'm not burned out, I'm pissed off

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Post by isodude »

I asked my SO recently how she view the Internet, what it is and how it works. She was honest and told me that, "If I click this button, this websites loads. If that works I'm fine! If it doesn't I will call you. Don't stop working with IT please, if you get it, we need you badly!"

I believe that is a good reason to be accepting towards the current state of affairs. People just don't care. They have more important issues to deal with, deadlines to meet, problems to face.

If you are frustrated and pissed off, great. That means you get it, and that's great!

Now, meditate -- the journey to a perfect secure world will take some time, like beyond your current life span. It's not until you accept that reality that you will make real change globally. Because it takes time, a lot of time.

Thanks for your effort so far.

Re: I'm not burned out, I'm pissed off

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Post by didibus »

Why would you need an InfoSec if security was a solved problem?

By the way, I totally understand where they're coming from, but I've realized that as an engineer in enterprise, your job is to fix things that are falling apart. The more senior and talented you become, the more broken the things they want you to fix become. That's literally your job!

They're not going to pay you to admire the beauty of something without issue that meets all requirements.

Re: I'm not burned out, I'm pissed off

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Post by kissgyorgy »

isodude wrote: post #14

I asked my SO recently how she view the Internet, what it is and how it works. She was honest and told me that, "If I click this button, this websites loads. If that works I'm fine! If it doesn't I will call you. Don't stop working with IT please, if you get it, we need you badly!" I believe that is a good reason to be accepting towards the current state of affairs. People just don't care. They have more important is…

> the journey to a perfect secure world will take some time

The author argues that it will never happen because we are WORSE today than we were before and I agree with that.

Re: I'm not burned out, I'm pissed off

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Post by Simon321 »

If you work in security, this resonates so much. No one really cares about security except to check a box or pay lip service to it. That's why so called security products ship without logging and clients don't want to make the smallest effort to enable you to improve their security. It's why companies that sell security products invest more in marketing than the product. The industry is full of conmen and marketeers. Information security can be great though if you find someone that really cares.
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