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Gen Yers lack confidence, behave like idiots

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Re: Gen Yers lack confidence, behave like idiots

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Post by rewind »

tx wrote: post #25
rewind wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Living with your parents if you're lazy or a freeloader is lame. There are countless good reasons beyond those to live with your parents if they're cool with it. What's disgusting about that? I lived with my parents until I was finished my degree when I was 24. I've had friends who hit tough times move back home to get back on their feet (who were accepted with open arms). I've had other friends stay home longer than…

Listen to yourself. You could be speaking Chinese right now with a similar effect. If my dog could understand (and speak) your language, he could have explained why licking his own balls isn't disgusting. He's cool with it.

You know, I'm not sure if that was meant to be harsh of if you're just joking around, but I don't even care... that's damn funny stuff either way. I know most people don't like the biting responses, but that was gold.

Re: Gen Yers lack confidence, behave like idiots

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Post by justindz »

edw519 wrote: post #26
justindz wrote: post #17

The professor might also be an overbearing tool bag or the class might not be particularly worth the effort (I've had a few of these). Anecdotal evidence like this is junk. My dad showed me his report card from Kindergarten once. He barely passed because "Eddie has trouble whistling and skipping in a straight line." When he got in to Dylan, it was all over for his potential as a productive and intelligent human. Of c…

"And he's my hero." Count your blessings.

Every other day :-)

Re: Gen Yers lack confidence, behave like idiots

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Post by daveambrose »

What is the average age/generation of a HN reader? I'd like to think Gen Y and I'd sure as anything bet they are the most confident of their close group of friends/colleagues. What do you think?

I'm 23 and this continual stereotype of my generation as "clueless" or "timid" is just absurd.

Re: Gen Yers lack confidence, behave like idiots

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Post by tx »

rewind wrote: post #31
tx wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Listen to yourself. You could be speaking Chinese right now with a similar effect. If my dog could understand (and speak) your language, he could have explained why licking his own balls isn't disgusting. He's cool with it.

You know, I'm not sure if that was meant to be harsh of if you're just joking around, but I don't even care... that's damn funny stuff either way. I know most people don't like the biting responses, but that was gold.

Man, this ain't real life, it's only Internet and my name isn't "tx" :) Besides, I lived with my pops in my 20s myself and speaking from experience. (I hated it).

Re: Gen Yers lack confidence, behave like idiots

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Post by snprbob86 »

daveambrose wrote: post #34

What is the average age/generation of a HN reader? I'd like to think Gen Y and I'd sure as anything bet they are the most confident of their close group of friends/colleagues. What do you think? I'm 23 and this continual stereotype of my generation as "clueless" or "timid" is just absurd.

I'm 21. I've got significant confidence. I'm also very assertive. Roll those character traits together with my perpetual boredom in class, and I wind up speaking out a lot. Every since high school, I was always the student to speak my opinion first and throw in my 2 cents every chance I got. As a result, I'm not well liked by instructors and some portion of students (typically those with differing views). I'm quite glad I just graduated.

I've made some very unpopular statements in philosophy, government, or similar classes wrought with highly debated topics. In about 8 years of this, not one person has spoken up in agreement with me during class. In fact, I've publicly asked the class "doesn't anyone agree with me?" several times. Not a single hand has ever gone up.

However, on numerous occasions, I have had peers come up to me after class and thank me for voicing an opinion they shared. I can think of 3 reasons for the refusal to do this publicly.

1) Students (or employees) are conditioned not to challenge the views of their instructor (or manager) -- it is in the best interest of their GPA (or career)

2) It seems that there is a expectation that unpopular ideas are held by unpopular people. It is socially safer to keep your opinions to yourself.

3) When someone is in trouble and only one person is there to see it, that person feels compelled to help. When someone is in trouble and there is a crowd watching, it is often far longer before someone steps up to help because no one feels that they are responsible.

Re: Gen Yers lack confidence, behave like idiots

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Post by nazgulnarsil »

snprbob86 wrote: post #36
daveambrose wrote: post #34

What is the average age/generation of a HN reader? I'd like to think Gen Y and I'd sure as anything bet they are the most confident of their close group of friends/colleagues. What do you think? I'm 23 and this continual stereotype of my generation as "clueless" or "timid" is just absurd.

I'm 21. I've got significant confidence. I'm also very assertive. Roll those character traits together with my perpetual boredom in class, and I wind up speaking out a lot. Every since high school, I was always the student to speak my opinion first and throw in my 2 cents every chance I got. As a result, I'm not well liked by instructors and some portion of students (typically those with differing views). I'm quite g…

I've had the same thing happen, no support in class, then afterwards people come up to me and ask me about further reading on the subject/unpopular opinion.

try this on for size in a government class sometime: the founding fathers were terrorist tax evaders and democracy is a stupid idea. People have no idea how to react, it hurts their brain to go that far outside "normal thinking".

Re: Gen Yers lack confidence, behave like idiots

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Post by nazgulnarsil »

gamerates wrote: post #9

I wish people would talk about "people" instead of senseless "generational" gaps. Although of course you are going to be shaped by common experiences of your generation (let's say 9/11, Iraq War, etc. for my generation) and the social (gay rights, black/woman potential president, etc.) and technological changes (grew up with computers and the internet) that are occurring during your time period, you are shaped much m…

I forget what the cognitive bias is called, but the gist is ignoring similarities and magnifying differences. It's a prime motivator in negative race relations too.

Re: Gen Yers lack confidence, behave like idiots

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Post by daveambrose »

snprbob86 wrote: post #36
daveambrose wrote: post #34

What is the average age/generation of a HN reader? I'd like to think Gen Y and I'd sure as anything bet they are the most confident of their close group of friends/colleagues. What do you think? I'm 23 and this continual stereotype of my generation as "clueless" or "timid" is just absurd.

I'm 21. I've got significant confidence. I'm also very assertive. Roll those character traits together with my perpetual boredom in class, and I wind up speaking out a lot. Every since high school, I was always the student to speak my opinion first and throw in my 2 cents every chance I got. As a result, I'm not well liked by instructors and some portion of students (typically those with differing views). I'm quite g…

Well made points.

Just keep this in mind: you can voice your opinion at anytime as well as be proactive. You just need to make sure you thought about what and how you're going to say it well in advance. Acting on pure emotions and not some form of strategy can get you in trouble.

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