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Re: Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?

#31

In a similar situation, I decided to take a leave of absence with no plan for what I was going to do. Since I wasn't sure I'd go back, I made sure other people on the team were prepared. Then serious family stuff happened and I was happy to have the time to deal with it. After the leave of absence was up, I still wasn't sure and asked about extending, but they didn't go for that so I left the company. Since then I've…

How do you support yourself? Do you have a family to support?

It sounds like he might be living off of investments or leftover savings from his previous position.

Re: Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?

#32
It's easy to get a job if you're ex-FANG, and often you can return to your FANG job easily (e.g. without having to interview).

I suggest you do some interviews and see how you feel about the opportunities that present themselves. Taking vacations to try doing your own thing is also a good idea.

FWIW I wish I had left my FANG job long before I did.

Re: Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?

#33
I left Amazon 9 months ago, after working there for 8.5 years. My total comp was over $500K when I left, which made it both easy (allowed me to save money) and hard to leave (I left about $1M of granted RSUs+Salary for 2019-2020 on the table).

At one point, I realized that a career as a full-time employee in at a "high-stress" employer is not the ideal one for me. I'm working for myself right now, but if one day I needed to go get a full-time job again, I would almost certainly not go to big tech again. I'd rather get paid a fifth of what I was doing, but do something that leaves me with some energy after I put in a day's work. My compensation and status growth were not conducive to increased satisfaction. I wrote more about my reasoning here: https://medium.com/@dvassallo/only-intrinsic-motivation-last...

Re: Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?

#34

I’ve worked in both big tech and startups. Startups are nothing like big tech companies. The work and needs of a small company are completely different than somewhere like Google. And here’s the bad news: going to a small startup or mission-driven company probably won’t make you happy. You often have all of the same problems, with none of the support or validation from a big company. I’ve hired and worked with many w…

Boredom was the biggest thing for me at my startup. When waiting around for the business guys to make the right partnership for 3 months while you refactor for a demo for the nth time....

Re: Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?

#36
I quit my job at a growing unicorn startup this month. It was my third tech job in an IC role and after working for four years out of college I felt just like you did. Completely bored going into work each day but making so much money for my hourly work output it felt too trapped to quit.

But I did eventually because the decision to trade time for money felt worth it. I felt that if you don't give yourself a break to try something besides big tech work it's hard to do so again at a later point in your life with a mortgage, kids, etc...

Now I'm surfing every morning, running a lifestyle business (https://www.interviewquery.com), and hanging out with friends.

Re: Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?

#37

I did it a little over two years ago. I had a pretty high paying job, low-stress work and desire to make a difference. I definitely miss my fat paycheck but love my freedom of experimentation, learning and doing what I believe in. I learned a lot about building a company from the ground up, but most of the miseries could have been avoided. I had to learn most of this the hard way, which might have been easier when I…

I think this is great advice (having worked in "big tech" for over a decade).

It reminds me of this old Spolsky article I read yesterday on "the development abstraction layer". Replace Microsoft with FANG and I suspect it still largely applies.

https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2006/04/11/the-development-ab...

Management’s primary responsibility to create the illusion that a software company can be run by writing code, because that’s what programmers do. And while it would be great to have programmers who are also great at sales, graphic design, system administration, and cooking, it’s unrealistic. Like teaching a pig to sing, it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.

Microsoft does such a good job at creating this abstraction that Microsoft alumni have a notoriously hard time starting companies. They simply can’t believe how much went on below decks and they have no idea how to reproduce it.

Basically your work environment at big tech companies is shaped by their network effects and the corresponding profits, which (almost) none of us had any hand in creating. So yes being on the outside is very different.

Though, in retrospect I worked in Big Tech when I was young, and before it was called "big tech" (e.g. before Joel even wrote that post). So just learning to code at that level was a challenge, let alone do all the other stuff.

Re: Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?

#38
post #3

I'm curious, how ridiculous? I'm not at FANG but I've considered making the jump. But good luck to you. There are always game companies you can go work at for a lot less!

Not the OP, but here's my own compensation growth at Amazon from 2010 to 2018 as an independent contributor (started SDE-1, left as an SDE-3): https://twitter.com/dvassallo/status/1164778970778259458

Re: Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?

#39
post #34

I’ve worked in both big tech and startups. Startups are nothing like big tech companies. The work and needs of a small company are completely different than somewhere like Google. And here’s the bad news: going to a small startup or mission-driven company probably won’t make you happy. You often have all of the same problems, with none of the support or validation from a big company. I’ve hired and worked with many w…

Boredom was the biggest thing for me at my startup. When waiting around for the business guys to make the right partnership for 3 months while you refactor for a demo for the nth time....

That doesn't sound like a typical startup experience though. Typically it's the opposite: too many things to do and the deadlines are always too short.

Re: Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?

#40
I've been at similar sounding cross-roads a number of times in my career. For me, the way that I've thought about this question changed a lot after 9/11. I lost a bunch of friends and colleagues. It was all of a sudden. Out of nowhere. For me, and for them. Ever since, I try and live life as fully and well as I can. Sometimes that has meant maximizing income. Other times it's meant passion projects. I've been lucky in that I've been able to get great high paying jobs when I've needed them. Try not to let fear get the better of you and live your best at all times. If you are feeling like you are wasting your time, then stop. Time truly is the most precious thing.
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