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Dark Mode by Default – 95% of People Prefer Dark over Light Mode

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Re: Dark Mode by Default – 95% of People Prefer Dark over Light Mode

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I don't know many people my age who can still handle dark mode. It was easy for me many years ago. I looked at command lines all day and no problem. Now I see blurry lines for 10 minutes all around me if I have to spend any length of time in a command line interface, or look at an article in dark mode. This is, unfortunately, an accessibility issue, not a design issue.

What contrast are you using when you get those problems? I typically use 80% grey on black.

Re: Dark Mode by Default – 95% of People Prefer Dark over Light Mode

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It seems that their data is mostly coming from their own user base (the discord data is biased as they admitted), which is mostly comprised of programmers and other techies. I don't know how far this generalizes to the rest of society. I personally like dark mode during night time, but almost always prefer light mode by default. There's just something about dark mode that is... gloomy and depressing. It feels like an…

> I've noticed that most techies do prefer dark mode, and I also recall reading that techies are disproportionately night owls - I wonder if there's a correlation there. If I may be mildly unflattering for a moment, I think it's just a trendiness thing. Dark Mode looks more like a terminal and signals "I'm a real big-boy hackerman" or something. If someone has real data showing it actually causes less eyestrain or so…

Agree on the trend thing.

Even older research supports the claim that black on white is easier on the eyes, this is why we switched away from white on black (DOS and UNIX). This applies to screens in well lit environments though, which would explain the rise of the dark mode in recent years: Smartphones in bed. But there it's more about the "less bad" solution.

The key part is having a well lit environment, so that the white background of the screen roughly matches the overall brightness of the surroundings. This way the pupils don't have to adjust all the time when looking around your room and then back at your screen, or when looking at code where the screen is mostly black with some text, and then some article with images.

Re: Dark Mode by Default – 95% of People Prefer Dark over Light Mode

#123
I far prefer dark mode for "chrome" and OS theming, etc. but not for documents. So the idea that just because I have dark mode selected means I want every site to look like a porn site and my emails to all have back backgrounds is very wrong. I want normal documents, just as they were, but with a dark theme around them.

Re: Dark Mode by Default – 95% of People Prefer Dark over Light Mode

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If system-wide themes really worked, I'd probably be switching now and then between light and dark themes. Dark mode is kind of gloomy but it's also easier on the eyes.

Latest releases of MacOS (and iOS) have it, and you can even set it to go into dark mode automatically at night.

Well, I meant something with more freedom of styling, not just some established light and dark theme. Like change the colors of system-wide buttons, text inputs, window title-bars, tabs, etc. Change the system-wide accenting color to Red, Blue, Green, Gold, etc.

Re: Dark Mode by Default – 95% of People Prefer Dark over Light Mode

#125
post #26

I don't know many people my age who can still handle dark mode. It was easy for me many years ago. I looked at command lines all day and no problem. Now I see blurry lines for 10 minutes all around me if I have to spend any length of time in a command line interface, or look at an article in dark mode. This is, unfortunately, an accessibility issue, not a design issue.

I'm older and I prefer dark mode, whether for CLI or GUI. It reduces eyestrain for me.

I'm older and I strongly prefer light mode. Dark mode irritates me in part because it's harder for me to read and in part because it depresses me.

Re: Dark Mode by Default – 95% of People Prefer Dark over Light Mode

#126
It really depends on the environment the program is developed in. I have seen guis for autmation, that was developed in glasshouse skyscrapers- and was light as hell, and then developed to dimly lit factories, who have to look at this searchlight of a screen during the nightshift. Praise be on windows, for allowing to invert colours (High contrast themes).

Re: Dark Mode by Default – 95% of People Prefer Dark over Light Mode

#127

People like novelty. Dark mode is something new in UX design. I'm not sure I'd read into it any more than that until a few more years pass.

Dark modes are a lot easier on the eyes if you spend a lot of time infront of screens and to greater and lesser extent everybody spends lots of time infront of screens nowadays. That being said, I have pretty good luck with browser plugins that auto dark mode websites reasonably well. I'm not sure I'd go redesigning the entire web with darkmodes in mind when plugins can do a good enough job.

> Dark modes are a lot easier on the eyes if you spend a lot of time infront of screens

For some people, yes. For others, no. That's why this should be a configurable option.

Re: Dark Mode by Default – 95% of People Prefer Dark over Light Mode

#129
I prefer light mode by default. I think there should be an os level setting if you prefer dark or light mode.

And yes there is a certain level of fashion between dark and light mode which seems to move back and forwards every now and then. This reminds me somehow of the moves between Terminal(thin) -> Server(thick) to Workstation(thick) -> Tablet(Thin) -> Cloud(Thick) -> Client side(Thick).

Re: Dark Mode by Default – 95% of People Prefer Dark over Light Mode

#130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I've noticed that most techies do prefer dark mode, and I also recall reading that techies are disproportionately night owls - I wonder if there's a correlation there. If I may be mildly unflattering for a moment, I think it's just a trendiness thing. Dark Mode looks more like a terminal and signals "I'm a real big-boy hackerman" or something. If someone has real data showing it actually causes less eyestrain or so…

bro you dont need "real data" to convince yourself that water is wet. if you have eyes you can get "empirical data": go into dark room. read black text on white background. observe how you are squinting and its hard to read. enable dark mode. (you can use something like night mode for firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/night-light-m... if you arent sure how). profit.

This can be fixed by turning the light on.

Most work areas are not lit well enough. For my own home office I have about 19,000 lumens of light in a relatively modest space. Same brightness as a cloudy day outside. In that environment, a white background is very pleasing to the eye, especially with crisp displays.

One advantage of dark backgrounds is that it's easier to distinguish many colors against something dark, so for code that uses heavy syntax highlighting, it looks nicer. But the edges of characters render better against white backgrounds, so it's a tradeoff...

One area where dark mode shines is if the environment doesn't allow for ambient light, such as checking the phone or laptop when someone is sleeping in the room.

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