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Some weekend work that will (hopefully) enable more Egyptians to be heard

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Post by blhack »

sfphotoarts wrote: post #8

Thousands of years seemed to go by where uprisings didn't need social networking. The Babylonians didn't need Twitter when they rose up against the Assyrian Empire. The Inaros' didn't need Facebook when they confronted the Persians in Egypt (although they did have the help of the Greeks). Julius Caesar didn't tweet 'hey watch out Pompey' when he marched on Roma. Did the Sicilian Vespers need Twitter to alter the bala…

Our species existed for millions of years without cooking food. Our species existed for millions of years without any sort of sterilization.

Thousands of wars have been fought without guns.

Millions of businesses have been built, grown, and died without the use of the internet.

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Post by ig1 »

sfphotoarts wrote: post #8

Thousands of years seemed to go by where uprisings didn't need social networking. The Babylonians didn't need Twitter when they rose up against the Assyrian Empire. The Inaros' didn't need Facebook when they confronted the Persians in Egypt (although they did have the help of the Greeks). Julius Caesar didn't tweet 'hey watch out Pompey' when he marched on Roma. Did the Sicilian Vespers need Twitter to alter the bala…

Thousands of years seemed to go by where companies didn't need computers.

It doesn't mean that computers add no value to companies.

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Post by danilocampos »

sfphotoarts wrote: post #8

Thousands of years seemed to go by where uprisings didn't need social networking. The Babylonians didn't need Twitter when they rose up against the Assyrian Empire. The Inaros' didn't need Facebook when they confronted the Persians in Egypt (although they did have the help of the Greeks). Julius Caesar didn't tweet 'hey watch out Pompey' when he marched on Roma. Did the Sicilian Vespers need Twitter to alter the bala…

The Babylonians weren't up against armored tanks or teargas.

To be certain: The Egyptians don't need social media to get their freedom. Just the same, communication is essential to any group activity, and social media is an advanced, instantaneous form of communication. It's a force multiplier for anyone seeking to maximize the effectiveness of the revolution. If the Egyptian security forces have access to modern tools, it's in the interest of the revolution to have modern tools as well. Even if social media only gets 10% more people to show up for a given demonstration, at the numbers we're seeing now, that's tens or hundreds of thousands of people.

If communicating via the internet didn't help, why would Mubarak shut it down?

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Post by Cushman »

sfphotoarts wrote: post #8

Thousands of years seemed to go by where uprisings didn't need social networking. The Babylonians didn't need Twitter when they rose up against the Assyrian Empire. The Inaros' didn't need Facebook when they confronted the Persians in Egypt (although they did have the help of the Greeks). Julius Caesar didn't tweet 'hey watch out Pompey' when he marched on Roma. Did the Sicilian Vespers need Twitter to alter the bala…

We never needed [x] before! [Y] was plenty good enough.

No offense intended, but... if that's your attitude, why bother reading anything on this site?

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Post by bkmartin »

sfphotoarts wrote: post #8

Thousands of years seemed to go by where uprisings didn't need social networking. The Babylonians didn't need Twitter when they rose up against the Assyrian Empire. The Inaros' didn't need Facebook when they confronted the Persians in Egypt (although they did have the help of the Greeks). Julius Caesar didn't tweet 'hey watch out Pompey' when he marched on Roma. Did the Sicilian Vespers need Twitter to alter the bala…

Ah yes. But how many people had to die in your examples provided. There are much better peaceful and diplomatic means now. they can have a bigger voice now by ramping up support around the world with their sympathizers. people shouldn't have to die to be heard and that is the joy of living now instead of 1000 years ago.

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Post by dholowiski »

Very cool. I assumed it would be filled up with Spam right away, but it's not - they must be doing some kind of filtering to make sure only Egyptian callers can leave a message. Most of the messages are not in english (duh) but here are a couple english messages. I'm surprised google isn't doing speech recognition and translating these for us too.

http://www.saynow.com/playMsg.html?ak=TkxFNENGTHVQQzdTdVE4N0...

http://www.saynow.com/playMsg.html?ak=ajRkanRVekNqSGdwZWw4ZX...

http://www.saynow.com/playMsg.html?ak=dkxLMm1KTER2cG5jWkd2Z2...

http://www.saynow.com/playMsg.html?ak=b1FveVRBQ2tyRlpWNjFMam...

Re: Some weekend work that will (hopefully) enable more Egyptians to be heard

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Post by dholowiski »

sfphotoarts wrote: post #8

Thousands of years seemed to go by where uprisings didn't need social networking. The Babylonians didn't need Twitter when they rose up against the Assyrian Empire. The Inaros' didn't need Facebook when they confronted the Persians in Egypt (although they did have the help of the Greeks). Julius Caesar didn't tweet 'hey watch out Pompey' when he marched on Roma. Did the Sicilian Vespers need Twitter to alter the bala…

No, and I don't need pants. But when it's -30 out and I have to shovel snow, they're sure a nice luxury.

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Post by Mz »

sfphotoarts wrote: post #8

Thousands of years seemed to go by where uprisings didn't need social networking. The Babylonians didn't need Twitter when they rose up against the Assyrian Empire. The Inaros' didn't need Facebook when they confronted the Persians in Egypt (although they did have the help of the Greeks). Julius Caesar didn't tweet 'hey watch out Pompey' when he marched on Roma. Did the Sicilian Vespers need Twitter to alter the bala…

Thousands of years seemed to go by where uprisings didn't need social networking.

The Babylonians, Persians and so on had much smaller populations back then. It makes a difference. The scale of population we are dealing with currently is, as far as I know, unprecedented in the history of humankind. That means that things which worked historically will be insufficient to the current situation.

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