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Japan wants foreign entrepreneurs, but what's missing?

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Re: Japan wants foreign entrepreneurs, but what's missing?

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Japan is a pretty good cautionary tale for Britain (and to a lesser extent to the US) on how shutting yourself off from immigration tends to go. Japan was expected to become the next global superpower in the 1980s, and instead has seen closing in on three lost decades. It’s only now trying to catch up, politically, culturally and economically.

Yet China is a global superpower and shut off from immigration

Re: Japan wants foreign entrepreneurs, but what's missing?

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Japan is a pretty good cautionary tale for Britain (and to a lesser extent to the US) on how shutting yourself off from immigration tends to go. Japan was expected to become the next global superpower in the 1980s, and instead has seen closing in on three lost decades. It’s only now trying to catch up, politically, culturally and economically.

Japan has virtually identical GDP/capita to the UK, the numbers are a little out of date as GBP has fallen in last few years. Maybe UK could try to emulate Japan to try to catch up with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)...

Re: Japan wants foreign entrepreneurs, but what's missing?

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Japan is a pretty good cautionary tale for Britain (and to a lesser extent to the US) on how shutting yourself off from immigration tends to go. Japan was expected to become the next global superpower in the 1980s, and instead has seen closing in on three lost decades. It’s only now trying to catch up, politically, culturally and economically.

Yet China is a global superpower and shut off from immigration

china has a billion people. they don't need immigration. japan's population is declining

Re: Japan wants foreign entrepreneurs, but what's missing?

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It's a taboo subject, because the Japanese aren't very open to non-locals.

Have you been there lately? They are actually quite many non-local workers these days. Not sure they are treated well though.

There are several foreign workers but they mostly work for established international companies with offices there. Few of these companies are Japanese (people do work for Japanese companies but usually outside Japan). It's not only about xenophobia, Japanese work culture is deeply hierarchical and seniority-based (the person who's been in the company the longest gets to run it, regardless whether they're any good at their job or not). Companies change their policies very slowly. They fear that foreigners would not understand this culture and try to disrupt it, for good or bad.

Re: Japan wants foreign entrepreneurs, but what's missing?

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Japan is a pretty good cautionary tale for Britain (and to a lesser extent to the US) on how shutting yourself off from immigration tends to go. Japan was expected to become the next global superpower in the 1980s, and instead has seen closing in on three lost decades. It’s only now trying to catch up, politically, culturally and economically.

Yet China is a global superpower and shut off from immigration

You understand that China is a widely different case right?

Re: Japan wants foreign entrepreneurs, but what's missing?

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Japan is a pretty good cautionary tale for Britain (and to a lesser extent to the US) on how shutting yourself off from immigration tends to go. Japan was expected to become the next global superpower in the 1980s, and instead has seen closing in on three lost decades. It’s only now trying to catch up, politically, culturally and economically.

The global superpower fears were wild exaggerations. They didn’t have the pop (workers and also consumers) to support those claims. Of course contributing to those fears was vast underinvestment in modernization by US firms which were still relying on very old and inefficient technologies, so of course to some stateside companies (and “pundits”) they looked like worldbeaters.

They do have the population. Just the prefecture of Tokyo is more populated than the whole continent of Australia (32 million vs 23 million)

Re: Japan wants foreign entrepreneurs, but what's missing?

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Japan is a pretty good cautionary tale for Britain (and to a lesser extent to the US) on how shutting yourself off from immigration tends to go. Japan was expected to become the next global superpower in the 1980s, and instead has seen closing in on three lost decades. It’s only now trying to catch up, politically, culturally and economically.

Yet China is a global superpower and shut off from immigration

They are not so shut-off to immigration as it is commonly imagined.

Also we might argue that the Chinese "self-migrate" with a huge amount of students that go for studies outside China but return later.

Re: Japan wants foreign entrepreneurs, but what's missing?

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Like others have stated, the Japanese are very much xenophobic to outsiders. The idea of bringing a business to Japan seems unique but you aren't going to get any community support like you would in western countries. Personally I view Japan has a oddity. A first world country that short of some tech and Toyota/Honda produce little to nothing for trade. Everything is imported which could land you into the red if the…

> A first world country that short of some tech and Toyota/Honda produce little to nothing for trade. Everything is imported Japan does not export "some tech and Toyota/Honda". It exports a LOTS of vehicles, vehicle parts, integrated circuits, machines, etc. Japan is the 4th largest exporter in the world. Also, a country that doesn't export much cannot import much, or else how could the country afford it? edit: typo

Not mention Japan's massive cultural exports, e.g. Godzilla, Nintendo, anime, samurai and ninjas, you could go on and on.

Re: Japan wants foreign entrepreneurs, but what's missing?

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Japan is a pretty good cautionary tale for Britain (and to a lesser extent to the US) on how shutting yourself off from immigration tends to go. Japan was expected to become the next global superpower in the 1980s, and instead has seen closing in on three lost decades. It’s only now trying to catch up, politically, culturally and economically.

Except the US has been pretty open to immigration for the last 250 years, while Japan is 98% Japanese.

US has been pretty open to immigration at some points, and relatively closed at others. For the most of last 250 years, it has been mostly closed to non-white immigration, for example. With the exception of black Americans, the current racial and ethnic diversity in the US is a rather recent phenomenon.

Re: Japan wants foreign entrepreneurs, but what's missing?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's a valid choice for a country to decide that the economic boon from foreign entrepreneurs isn't worth it if those people can't speak your language. I'd certainly be irritated if someone opened a business in my town and couldn't speak English, and the US is a lot less homogeneous than Japan.

So, I don't understand this perspective at all. Help me get it. It seems to me that speaking a language is a skill. I know from my own experience trying to learn a second language that it isn't an easy skill for many people to acquire. Why should I be more irritated that someone doesn't speak English than that they, say, can't make a cabinet or can't write Java, or any other mildly demanding skill? I get the argument…

> I get the argument that someone who doesn't speak your language doesn't participate fully in your culture either, but I guess I'm still not sure why I should be upset about that.

Societal harmony matters. It's why universal healthcare exists. It's why welfare exists. It's why affirmative action exists. Why countries spend money integrating immigrants. Everything that helps out poorer people is done with societal harmony in mind, these programs aren't 'fair' to the middle class that largely pays for them. But they reduce crime and increase social cohesion.

Countries exist that have dozens of languages and tribes. They usually have endless social problems, unrest, civil wars and often break up. Homogenous societies (culturally) almost always work better. It's why the US creation myth exists, ditto for Canada, it's why France and Germany try to teach their language to newcomers, etc...

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