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I am no longer able to use Google with Lynx

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Re: I am no longer able to use Google with Lynx

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Another person notes that ddg is inferior. Maybe people get used to a certain way of searching with Google that doesn't translate to ddg. Haven't noticed a drop in quality myself and I think I might have been retrained to use different patterns and techniques in structuring my queries.

Re: I am no longer able to use Google with Lynx

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post #3

Serious question, why search Google in your terminal with Lynx as opposed to `googler`? The actual result pages can still open in Lynx but the experience of navigating the results is very nice.

Author of the post is blind so I'd imagine the usage of Lynx is for screen reading/accessibility reasons.

Re: I am no longer able to use Google with Lynx

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I feel like many of the text-mode browsers have failed to keep up with changing web standards. We were all mad when IE was holding back the Internet, and I'm not sure we should give lynx and w3m a pass because they're geek tools. (Accessibility is an important concern, but web browsers running under a GUI system support screen readers.)

https://www.brow.sh/ is a console-based browser that claims to support modern standards. Perhaps that is what we should be using.

(I am now prepared for 6 comments replying to me saying that anything that can be implemented with HTML from 1999 should be, and a list of search results can be. I guess. If all that stuff works for everyone, why did we invent new stuff? Just because? Or perhaps it wasn't really as amazing as well all remember.)

Re: I am no longer able to use Google with Lynx

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Another person notes that ddg is inferior. Maybe people get used to a certain way of searching with Google that doesn't translate to ddg. Haven't noticed a drop in quality myself and I think I might have been retrained to use different patterns and techniques in structuring my queries.

What many people don't realise (especially in HN) is that DDG is not as good as Google, in my experience, in looking for non-English content. One of the things that stopped me was the lack of good Dutch results that Google can pick up easily with its internal translations and whatnot.

Re: I am no longer able to use Google with Lynx

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Curious, I installed lynx just to check this out.

I find that I physically cannot navigate to the links in the page except the first few at the top.

But.

On the pages I get, the ... structure is still 100% intact. It's buried in a table and div soup, but it's there.

So, I argue Lynx parsing bug!

The author of this article would have done well to save and diff the working/not-working HTML they received. :(

Re: I am no longer able to use Google with Lynx

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post #9

Curious, I installed lynx just to check this out. I find that I physically cannot navigate to the links in the page except the first few at the top. But. On the pages I get, the ... structure is still 100% intact. It's buried in a table and div soup, but it's there. So, I argue Lynx parsing bug! The author of this article would have done well to save and diff the working/not-working HTML they received. :(

Why should anyone have to do that? If the site stops working for the user than it no longer works.

Should they be expected to make their own ‘re-Googler’ to fix the page so they can use it again?

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