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Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest

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Re: Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest

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You need a majority market share to extinguish something. Edge has 2%.

It will have much more once the chromium based one comes out. You won't believe how many people still use explorer out of the box, they just get told to use Chrome once some website is not working. But if they will work all the same there won't be any reason to switch.

I think more people install chrome when they visit Google.com and are prompted to install it.

Re: Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest

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Tracking prevention in Edge makes sense for Microsoft, as they already have more than enough tracking in windows itself.

That's why I think that Microsoft is walking a fine line here, blocking other people trackers while keeping their own may be considered anti-competitive. If Edge had the market share IE had in the past, that would be calling for legal trouble. Google themselves also suffer a lot from bad actors. Many people start installing ad blockers after visiting abusive sites, and these ad blockers block the more tolerable Googl…

Isn't Google basically a primary threat actor for any society/collective trying to maintain equality through symmetry of information?

Re: Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest

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How users use computers has very little to do for a useful AI.

Probably true for AGI but the overloaded term "AI" could be applied to learn from how people use software to _carefully_ suggest improvements. Usage stats could help you improve a user interface, teach users new skills (eg: "you always do this, here's a shortcut to save you time"), perhaps more personalized operating system interfaces and defaults. You probably don't need a fancy pseudo "AI" system for any of these,…

I look forward to the day when the term 'AGI' gets co-opted by marketers and we need to come up with a new term for true AGI (TAGI?).

Re: Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest

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Don't try to frame the false dichotomy that the only existent browsers to choose from are either Chrome or Edge. There are many more popular browsers than Edge out there, such as Firefox, Opera, Brave, and Safari, as well as various open source forks (Palemoon, Chromium, etc.) The point of the parent comment is that to a privacy minded user, Edge would be the LAST option to consider for someone switching from Chrome,…

Some people believe Chromium offers the best browsing experience as well as security. For those people there is now a choice.

It has been a choice for 11 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)

Re: Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest

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I briefly worked for google this year, and “don’t be evil” doesn’t appear in any of their on-boarding materials (anymore at least).

"don't be evil" is still in official code of conduct.

“Don’t; Be evil!”

Re: Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest

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There are claims about Google "mistakenly" breaking Youtube etc. on Firefox. I wonder what happens if Microsoft "mistakenly" breaks Chrome and the updater? Because when these companies truly take on to each other, they do play dirty. I would prefer to watch such a fight, instead of browsers becoming non-standard. Default ad-blocking shouldn't be a thing, what's next? Browsers with default Reddit enhancement suits? Th…

Were you also opposed to browser vendors blocking pop up windows and auto playing video and sound?

No, that's pretty much the opposite, because the user has more control.

Re: Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest

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> I briefly worked for google this year I apologize in advance if the reason is personal and you do not want to share, but why did you stay at Google for such a short period of time?

I’d be asking why any time, not expecting more.

20 minute commute instead of 2 hours. I thought I can deal with the business model issues in exchange for that, it turned out I could not.

Re: Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest

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I can't tell from the article. Does anyone know if Google Analytics is blocked by default? It says the default is Balanced mode and that the trackers blocked are mostly from Google. But it doesn't make it clear if Google Analytics is blocked by default. Google Analytics uses first party cookies so it usually passes by default blockers at least. If they are blocking that by default this is a massive blow. Otherwise it…

"Of that total, 552 were from Google domains. That's a mind-boggling 23.8% of the total. To put that into perspective, the second entry on the list of blocked trackers was Facebook, which represented 3.8% of the total. (It's worth noting that these results shouldn't suggest any kind of conspiracy against Google. The fact that Google is at the top of any list of online trackers is a reflection of their business model…

That's the quote I read and was confused about.

It says most trackers blocked are from Google but don't mention which ones. Then at the end says Google analytics and AdSense are embedded in a lot of websites which is obvious but doesn't make it clear if they are blocked by default or not.

The blocked scripts might all be the double click 3rd party trackers which are also omnious.

Re: Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest

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MS turning Google owned guns, against them. But I shed no tear here. Browser wars are actually quite amazing battlefield to follow.

MS also attempting to use its monopoly position on the desktop to damage a competitor, there's no heroes in this fight.

I say attempting because, thank goodness, MS no longer has the stranglehold that it used to have - due to Google attempting itself trying to get a stranglehold on all computing devices that people use through Android.

I'm surprised that Fuchsia hasn't made an appearance yet as that will probably also be pitched as a competitor to Windows, hoping to further erode MS's position in the market.

I kinda hope they make Fuchsia a full-fledged desktop OS other than the same online-only offering that Chromium was.

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