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Re: Recreation.gov

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Post by mceoin »

a3n wrote: post #28

What agency are they under? Couldn't find it on site, just who they partner with. But who are they ?

recreation.gov was contracted out to Booze Allen Hamilton via RFP from the National Park Service.

Disclosure: I don't work at Booze but did collaborate with them loosely when integrating rec.gov's API[0] into Hipcamp.com

The previous contractor was Reserve America. If you're interested in some fun reading on open data advocacy that led to everybody being able to access public parks data via API check out accessland.org

[0] https://ridb.recreation.gov/

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Post by mceoin »

xxpor wrote: post #29

Lol at the copyright notice at the bottom. I notice the app is made by Booz Allen Hamilton. It's a shame we have to farm this stuff out to contractors and not use the USDS or 18F.

*18F

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Post by dannyr »

xxpor wrote: post #29

Lol at the copyright notice at the bottom. I notice the app is made by Booz Allen Hamilton. It's a shame we have to farm this stuff out to contractors and not use the USDS or 18F.

And this likely cost over $10 million. Will not be surprised if it's $100m.

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Post by xxpor »

mceoin wrote: post #32
xxpor wrote: post #29

Lol at the copyright notice at the bottom. I notice the app is made by Booz Allen Hamilton. It's a shame we have to farm this stuff out to contractors and not use the USDS or 18F.

*18F

facepalm

Thanks, fixed.

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#35

Post by xxpor »

dannyr wrote: post #33
xxpor wrote: post #29

Lol at the copyright notice at the bottom. I notice the app is made by Booz Allen Hamilton. It's a shame we have to farm this stuff out to contractors and not use the USDS or 18F.

And this likely cost over $10 million. Will not be surprised if it's $100m.

Found this:

Duration of the performance-based contract will be three and a half years, with a total potential value of $128 million. It provides for additional options of up to 10 years.

https://gcn.com/Articles/2004/08/09/USDA-awards-contract-for...

Sooooo yeah.

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Post by mceoin »

mbrameld wrote: post #22
kylebarron wrote: post #12

FYI recreation.gov also has an API: https://ridb.recreation.gov/ Edit: the National Park Service also has its own API: https://www.nps.gov/subjects/developer/api-documentation.htm

As far as I can tell it doesn't provide availability information, though.

there is definitely an availability API. I helped lobby for it! We also implemented it at Hipcamp

(If you can't find a signup form on the rec.gov website just contact them directly and ask for access. I think their team was rolling access out slowly as they hadn't finished building a fully fledged login system but last I checked they do want 3rd parties being able to build on top of that data)

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Post by mceoin »

xxpor wrote: post #35
dannyr wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And this likely cost over $10 million. Will not be surprised if it's $100m.

Found this: Duration of the performance-based contract will be three and a half years, with a total potential value of $128 million. It provides for additional options of up to 10 years. https://gcn.com/Articles/2004/08/09/USDA-awards-contract-for... Sooooo yeah.

I read through these contracts a _long_ time ago. I think the contract is for managing a bunch of parks stuff and is expansive far beyond the website.

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Post by xur17 »

xxpor wrote: post #35
dannyr wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And this likely cost over $10 million. Will not be surprised if it's $100m.

Found this: Duration of the performance-based contract will be three and a half years, with a total potential value of $128 million. It provides for additional options of up to 10 years. https://gcn.com/Articles/2004/08/09/USDA-awards-contract-for... Sooooo yeah.

That article is from 2004, is this a new site, or something that was just released?

Re: Recreation.gov

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Post by kristopolous »

xxpor wrote: post #35
dannyr wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And this likely cost over $10 million. Will not be surprised if it's $100m.

Found this: Duration of the performance-based contract will be three and a half years, with a total potential value of $128 million. It provides for additional options of up to 10 years. https://gcn.com/Articles/2004/08/09/USDA-awards-contract-for... Sooooo yeah.

The fetish we have with trying to private sector everything is a financial disaster.

We can pay people to build it directly, it's ok. There doesn't need to be an unaccountable greased palm making $100 million in the background through some "public-private partnership".

If the contractor makes a profit we pay more. If instead the government makes a profit, we pay less (see public banking for an example). Kinda funny how that works.

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