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Completely off topic, but can someone provide a layman's pronunciation of "Uigher?" As someone who is not a linguist, the pronunciation squiggles in the Wikipedia entry are entirely unhelpful.
The documents reveal how every aspect of a detainee's life is monitored and controlled: "The students should have a fixed bed position, fixed queue position, fixed classroom seat, and fixed station during skills work, and it is strictly forbidden for this to be changed. "Implement behavioural norms and discipline requirements for getting up, roll call, washing, going to the toilet, organising and housekeeping, eating…
> The students should have a fixed bed position, fixed queue position, fixed classroom seat, and fixed station during skills work, and it is strictly forbidden for this to be changed My school was like that when I was growing up. I'm not justifying what China is doing, and I didn't like it myself. But I find it weird to find it quoted here like that.
"Implement behavioural norms and discipline requirements for getting up, roll call, washing, going to the toilet, organising and housekeeping, eating, studying, sleeping, closing the door and so forth"
My school was like that when I was growing up.
Your school proscribed when you go to the toilet and how to close a door?
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I realize this might be wrong and based on not reading enough history about it, but I’ve always understood that the Holocaust was not well documented until after the war. Obviously many people fleeing Germany and the occupied countries during that period, knew something bad was happening, but overall, it’s my understanding that before and during the war, the rest of the world really wasn’t aware, or at least not awar…
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But the reality is this: you had the option to leave, they don’t. You survived, they probably won’t.
You really don’t have an option to leave without being disciplined. Both systems are using similar tactics to create obedient factory workers; which is exactly the point. The work camp will use just more of that.
I've always felt arguments like "the parents can choose not to send their kid to their" or "the captor's intention was good" to be insufficient. No matter how that changes, the information/data flows from the captors to the 'captive' person's mind does not change much.
At the same time, it might not be possible to eliminate 'captive' information systems, especially if we loosen the definition of 'captive'. For example, you can pretty much only consume news in the language you know so you are held captive. However if you consume only English news, then you're worldview will be biased. English news only covers the more sensational international stories and journalists, who mostly have good intentions, are biased as well.
I ended up rambling a bit, but the main point is that axiomatic arguments don't solve the problem and the lines between good/bad are too 'fuzzy'. Practical solutions around info/data flow and a good understanding of how it makes the lives of 'captives' and others in the world might have more potential
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re-education_through_labor
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Please remove this nonsense. Ethnic groups are not cults.
They're doing this to the extremely radical parts not the whole ethnic group. Like the governor of the region was a Uighur last time I checked.
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Please remove this nonsense. Ethnic groups are not cults.
They're doing this to the extremely radical parts not the whole ethnic group. Like the governor of the region was a Uighur last time I checked.
Maybe Tim Cook will show some "courage" now. [Edit] Sorry for the snark. In a market economy, the only way companies like Apple might act in the same way that compassionate human beings would, is if it were in the interests of their bottom line. Perhaps articles like this will hit critical mass, and Apple will put out a statement, carefully composed to ensure that China doesn't lose face. Perhaps they'll do something…
We have to stop expecting moral behavior from publicly listed companies. They will naturally trend towards short to medium term profit maximization within the given legal constraints. The boundaries for corporate behaviour have to be established by elected governments. In the case of China that could mean customs duties, sanctions and stricter regulations for moving part of your supply chain there.