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Data leak reveals how China 'brainwashes' Uighurs in prison camps

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

input_sh wrote: post #37
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You really don’t have an option to leave without being disciplined. Both systems are using similar tactics to create obedient factory workers; which is exactly the point. The work camp will use just more of that.

It is an option, chosen by the parents. They weren't forced to attend that school based on their ethnicity.

For a kid, their parents are often unaware or unsympathetic to their struggles. And just to be clear, the same tactics are applied to Han Chinese (well, the high schools are more harsh, but the Chinese work camp model was already well developed before they decided to do this en masse in Xinjiang). It is horrible, don’t get me wrong, I’m not going to defend it, but I also hope it instills a bit more awareness in our own shortcomings (as well as that of China in general).

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iscrewyou wrote: post #32
ratww wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The students should have a fixed bed position, fixed queue position, fixed classroom seat, and fixed station during skills work, and it is strictly forbidden for this to be changed My school was like that when I was growing up. I'm not justifying what China is doing, and I didn't like it myself. But I find it weird to find it quoted here like that.

But the reality is this: you had the option to leave, they don’t. You survived, they probably won’t.

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Post by the_duke »

devhwrng wrote: post #2

Maybe Tim Cook will show some "courage" now. [Edit] Sorry for the snark. In a market economy, the only way companies like Apple might act in the same way that compassionate human beings would, is if it were in the interests of their bottom line. Perhaps articles like this will hit critical mass, and Apple will put out a statement, carefully composed to ensure that China doesn't lose face. Perhaps they'll do something…

We have to stop expecting moral behavior from publicly listed companies.

They will naturally trend towards short to medium term profit maximization within the given legal constraints.

The boundaries for corporate behaviour have to be established by elected governments.

In the case of China that could mean customs duties, sanctions and stricter regulations for moving part of your supply chain there.

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Post by monocasa »

baby wrote: post #27
mtts wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read up on the gulags sometime.

It’s not a competition, we’ll probably look back at prisons in the future and be like “wtf were they thinking?” the same way our generation looks at previous generations and the normalization of slavery.

However, the vitriolic response that people have to the very idea that we could possibly be doing the same things is worthy of some introspection today.

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Post by bransonf »

China wants the Uighur‘s gone, period. I don’t think anything short of military action is going to stop that.

And frankly I don’t think that is ever going to happen, because of the world powers that would be capable, they too hold resentment for Islamic religions.

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