Actually, the web began dying in the late 90s.
If by the web you mean booting up an entire JVM to enable drag and drop
I mean static HTML.
The Web Began Dying in 2014 (2017)
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#22>Internet Service Providers (ISPs) are probably soon going to dictate what traffic can or cannot arrive at people’s end devices. This was the money quote for me. FANG may kill the web, but the idea that ISPs (in my opinion some of the scummiest corporations out there) get to decide what content they serve me and what they don't has the potential to kill the Internet as we know it.
Naw, with the coming of 5G it will destroy their monopolies on the communication lines which should open the door to more local competition.
5G isn’t a substitute for fibre.
Re: The Web Began Dying in 2014 (2017)
#23>Internet Service Providers (ISPs) are probably soon going to dictate what traffic can or cannot arrive at people’s end devices. This was the money quote for me. FANG may kill the web, but the idea that ISPs (in my opinion some of the scummiest corporations out there) get to decide what content they serve me and what they don't has the potential to kill the Internet as we know it.
Naw, with the coming of 5G it will destroy their monopolies on the communication lines which should open the door to more local competition.
That assumes that you'll have a healthy offering of wireless providers. If you're from Europe, then I understand that's the norm there, but in the US, it's the same story as your local ISPs. For home internet, you'll be beholden to whatever companies own the towers near your property.
Re: The Web Began Dying in 2014 (2017)
#24People used to sit on a couch and watch TV for hours and also spent hours on the old phones talking about the most exciting shade of nail polish. Shopping is also fun. Now all that activities largely moved to Internet. Thanks to omnipresence of smartphones the hours dedicated to those activities had also increased. Of course share of general Joe Doe's website got smaller as said website does not always cater to few m…
Except that it's drowning in noise. The SNR is definitely dropping.
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#25Wait but goog fb and amzn have been aggressively trying to capture global markets. They have been increasing the footprint, does not that count for % increase from 2014 to 2017 ?? Does not make sense ..point about web is dying is opinionated. Today I can watch Netflix, order from doordash and connect with my family through FaceTime. All via web.
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#26People used to sit on a couch and watch TV for hours and also spent hours on the old phones talking about the most exciting shade of nail polish. Shopping is also fun. Now all that activities largely moved to Internet. Thanks to omnipresence of smartphones the hours dedicated to those activities had also increased. Of course share of general Joe Doe's website got smaller as said website does not always cater to few m…
Except that it's drowning in noise. The SNR is definitely dropping.
Well I would say that web search takes good care of SNR. So far no troubles finding interesting stuff.
Re: The Web Began Dying in 2014 (2017)
#27>Internet Service Providers (ISPs) are probably soon going to dictate what traffic can or cannot arrive at people’s end devices. This was the money quote for me. FANG may kill the web, but the idea that ISPs (in my opinion some of the scummiest corporations out there) get to decide what content they serve me and what they don't has the potential to kill the Internet as we know it.
How can they even do it with encryption and CDNs everywhere? It's just not possible. The last trace is unencrypted domain name in TLS handshake and it'll be gone soon.
Re: The Web Began Dying in 2014 (2017)
#28Actually, the web began dying in the late 90s.
The eternal September was 1993. I remember that change well and the earlier flavour I remember nostalgically. And it was tied to the rise of the web. There's a good argument to say the web killed the internet.
But all things change. Every phase has good and bad points. IMHO
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#29What is "Web"? Side note: both FB and Google cannot be accessed from China.
... But they both had basically equivalent local counterparts
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except that it's drowning in noise. The SNR is definitely dropping.
Well I would say that web search takes good care of SNR. So far no troubles finding interesting stuff.
"Finding interesting stuff" maybe. But finding a lot of the things I used to find some years ago is just not possible anymore.
Somehow searching changed as well as the ecosystem of the web itself. The big global players dominate nearly every inch of the web and many sites look like clones of each other.
There is a lot more effort being put into censorship and also more threats to ordinary users in my opinion.
When I loved to use the web it was like a big playground and it seemed that the most people there where extremely curious and open-minded.
Today there is so much hate - no real discussion (this community is a rare anomaly considering this argument) and I think it's not about discussions for these people who spread hate. Also it's all about the money. In the earlier days people used to write blogs and create sites just for fun but today everyone wants to get some money or measurable attention (likes, views, followers etc.).
Constantly you are being bothered by advertisement which gets more invasive from time to time, cryptominers and other malicious software that creeps into your system if you just click on the wrong link. Don't remember that from the beginnings and I'd love to experience that again some day.