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YouTube channel owners: Is your content directed to children?

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Re: YouTube channel owners: Is your content directed to children?

#51
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Can borderline channels just say “fuck” at some point in the middle of the video.

I was under the impression no one is supposed to be swearing according to the TOS (at least for minimized channels.) The whole social dynamic here is IMO pretty confusing. Google is kind of an ass to the content creators but they don’t leave. Everyone says it’s about discoverability but video podcasts are discoverable, nicer to creators and literally push your content to your subscribers devices. Not to mention most…

>but video podcasts are discoverable

No they're not. Does the average person know what you're even talking about here? Because I don't know and a service that's unknown is not discoverable.

Re: YouTube channel owners: Is your content directed to children?

#52
post #13

How did youtube manage to convince the ftc that their practice of illegally surveilling minors is somehow the fault of youtube users? Doesn't every youtube user provide their age when they make an account? Shouldn't youtube have some kind of predicate like "if child doNotTrack"? I think google might be committing libel here. Claiming their users violate coppa when their users can't even control who google does or doe…

Youtube doesn't allow you to create an account if you select an age that would make you a child. But you don't need an account to watch youtube.

Personally, I think anyone younger than 18 is a child and I tend to use minor and child interchangeably.

Re: YouTube channel owners: Is your content directed to children?

#53

99% of channel owners producing content for children know their market includes children; the other 1% are lying. This gives Youtube's army of annotators better basis to flag the liars. Not just that the content is directed to children, but that they are liars.

And if the FTC decides that your Mario speed run is kids friendly, because it has animated characters, flashy graphics, and is related to toys? Speed runs most definitely aren't targeted at kids, but according to FTC rules that could be classified as kid friendly.

Re: YouTube channel owners: Is your content directed to children?

#54
post #34

I'd like to make a point here that isn't coming up enough in this conversation. GOOGLE knowingly tracked children, marketed towards them, but somehow the FTC allowed them to transfer liability to their creators. No creator has ever tracked children, and yet, they are liable for Google's actions? What options am I left here? I can't make content for children of even talk about anything that might appeal to a child; I…

Google was fined $170 million and required to do better. > What options am I left here? I can't make content for children of even talk about anything that might appeal to a child Or ......... you can mark your video as targeted as children.

Not if the money you earn from it matters to you.

Re: YouTube channel owners: Is your content directed to children?

#55
post #44

I'm really not fond of rules that force you to make black and white decisions on things that are inherently in shades of gray. I watch a lot of stuff with my 5 year old daughter -- whether on YouTube or elsewhere -- than we both seem to equally enjoy. Recent ones include Star Wars Resistance, The Mandalorian, Spirited Away, From Up on Poppy Hill, The Incredibles 2. On YouTube we watch "how it's made" videos, as well…

you guys remember when old looney tunes and old tom & jerry were appropriate for kids programs? nowadays they are not. a few of them are now on youtube right next to the recent "appropriate" ones. so yes, that line is very blurry...

Why do you think they're not appropriate anymore? Not necessarily disagreeing, just curious about the opinion. There's animated violence, lots of racial stereotypes, unsafe house behaviour, etc. Is it just an overall combination of them that you think is not appropriate, or something specific?

Re: YouTube channel owners: Is your content directed to children?

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got the email from YouTube a week or so ago, and it seemed clear to me that they were not asking "is your content OK for kids to watch?" They were asking "is your content directed toward kids?" The FTC page confirms that and gives some examples. To pull an example from memory, I used to watch Blue's Clues with my kids when they were little. Even though I also enjoyed the humor and creativity of the show, and the ex…

On one hand, yes, that's definitely what the FTC is trying to say. In their complaint against Youtube, all of the channels are completely without a doubt directed towards kids in the normal sense. But if I'm, like, a Mario speedrunner, when I read that the FTC's indica of child-targeted content include "the use of animated characters" and "enabled settings that made their content appear when users searched for the na…

Your Mario speedrun is the perfect example of why people are worried. The FTC listed criteria that might get your videos be considered as "directed at kids" and a this type of content would tick a lot of those boxes while clearly not being directed at kids.

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#57
post #12

I haven't done much research on this topic yet. But it's my understanding that, to sum up: 1. It's easier not to target children. 2. This is more of a nuisance for established channels, as they have to edit every video and mark whether it's directed to children or not. That's if I'm not wrong. I mean, I've mainly gotten my information from this one video so far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwDrHOe43E I'm only a…

The main worry creators have is that the FTC is the final decider whether your content is for kids or not. They say that things such as animated characters and flashy graphics can put your video in the "for kids" category regardless what you indicate the video as.

I think even more, the worry is that the YouTube algorithms are the initial deciders, and they tend to have high false-positive rates that it is then your responsibility as a creator to overturn.

Note: the way YouTube has set this up, it is the creator's legal responsibility to mark their videos appropriately, but YouTube will also be running an algorithm to automatically flag videos as a best effort approach.

Re: YouTube channel owners: Is your content directed to children?

#58
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was under the impression no one is supposed to be swearing according to the TOS (at least for minimized channels.) The whole social dynamic here is IMO pretty confusing. Google is kind of an ass to the content creators but they don’t leave. Everyone says it’s about discoverability but video podcasts are discoverable, nicer to creators and literally push your content to your subscribers devices. Not to mention most…

> but video podcasts are discoverable No they're not. Does the average person know what you're even talking about here? Because I don't know and a service that's unknown is not discoverable.

I think there's a difference between discoverable content on a service and the service itself being discoverable. Podcasts (video or audio) are relatively easy to find once you're actually into that. But I very rarely hear anyone mentioning video podcasts at all.

Re: YouTube channel owners: Is your content directed to children?

#60

I'd like to make a point here that isn't coming up enough in this conversation. GOOGLE knowingly tracked children, marketed towards them, but somehow the FTC allowed them to transfer liability to their creators. No creator has ever tracked children, and yet, they are liable for Google's actions? What options am I left here? I can't make content for children of even talk about anything that might appeal to a child; I…

It's getting hard to tell where Google ends and the government begins.
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