I think someone thought about what he couldn't say, a man must have a code. One omission instead of a lifetime of mistruths.
An update on YC China
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Re: An update on YC China
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Thanks for the intel! This is super great to know. It definitely helped to put things into more perspective. So kudos for that! I saw an interview with Qi the other day (back when it was still YC China) and Qi mentioned about funding ambitious start-ups that play the long game and are in early stage but have little or no connections in China which mean these start-ups would otherwise be ignored by Chinese investors.…
> I'm one of those people that ended up moving back to China and looking to start a blue ocean project here. I assume you're fluent in Chinese, that helps a lot. As for angel-funding without connection, it could be a bit tuff. Also sometimes it helps to go through your current Chinese network and to ask whether someone is envolve or know people who involved in PE and VC. Btw, which city are you based? > What about an…
Thanks for the pointer! Here is the link of the article coverage: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/KdfV4hF4qz8Ti1XL0i_S3A (it's in Chinese though) I'm based in Guangzhou at the moment.
Re: An update on YC China
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> and the Chinese government hasn't seized Alibaba, Tencent or Huawei. Funny, your examples include a company famous for the CCP removing their CEO (Ali) and the company being an arm of military intelligence (Huawei). I don't feel the need to continue.
> a company famous for the CCP removing their CEO (Ali) [citation needed] > the company being an arm of military intelligence (Huawei) [citation needed]
Google and a mind not already up is all you need, good luck.
Re: An update on YC China
#384Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'm one of those people that ended up moving back to China and looking to start a blue ocean project here. I assume you're fluent in Chinese, that helps a lot. As for angel-funding without connection, it could be a bit tuff. Also sometimes it helps to go through your current Chinese network and to ask whether someone is envolve or know people who involved in PE and VC. Btw, which city are you based? > What about an…
Thanks for the pointer! Here is the link of the article coverage: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/KdfV4hF4qz8Ti1XL0i_S3A (it's in Chinese though) I'm based in Guangzhou at the moment.
Thanks. I can read a little Chinese. Unfortunately, I don't know much about GZ. However, I think in SZ the entrepreneur community is slightly more developed
Re: An update on YC China
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The idea that this kind of equality is going to be a thing in China is putting the cart about 200 miles ahead of the horse.
China, as most other communist countries, implemented gender workplace equality much earlier than the West. Furthermore, China has probably the most aggressive affirmative action programs in the world. Yes, China is bad on human rights in some aspects, but these blatant misrepresentations need to stop. They only serve the massive propaganda campaign the US started in recent years.
Beyond delusional, ink on books has no bearing on the real world
Re: An update on YC China
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Wouldn't it be an abandonment of their duty of care to portfolio companies for them to poke the bear, though? I get that if PG tweeted something like, "We're pulling out of China because they're violently repressing pro-democracy protestors in Hong Kong and they run a re-education gulag archipelago for millions of Uighurs and they murder political prisoners so they can sell their organs through their state-administer…
> Actions speak louder than words. Umm, your entire comment was pointing out how embarrassingly loud words can be, and therefore how it was better just to take a quiet action.
fair point, but I still think they did right by their portfolio companies here
Re: An update on YC China
#387Earlier quoted context omitted.
China, as most other communist countries, implemented gender workplace equality much earlier than the West. Furthermore, China has probably the most aggressive affirmative action programs in the world. Yes, China is bad on human rights in some aspects, but these blatant misrepresentations need to stop. They only serve the massive propaganda campaign the US started in recent years.
Affirmative action programs like rounding up Uighur Muslims and making them more Han Chinese? You’re right about China (and other communist countries) being first on gender equality at least in some respects, but... so what? In the West it’s good enough at a macro scale. Saying China is bad on human rights in some respects is a gross understatement.
It's totally possible to allow a counter terrorism program to run rampant with abuses while also having strong affirmative action programs.
The US definitely does it...
Re: An update on YC China
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What you have just said is very postmodern and the meta-narrative (or meta-sentiment) could be applied to virtually anything. I was merely trying to shift the focus of the heated discussion here as things were getting homogenous and reddit-like.
Huh. Claiming that there are no valid outer narrative is postmodern.
That is the central problem of the postmodern. It is a framework that inevitably dismisses itself when you go enough meta-level up.
Re: An update on YC China
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An ineffable, inexplicable thing, bound up in the mystery of 5000+ years of culture, that you can only understand if you are Han Chinese, as they are above the rest of us humans.
It's funny cause any specific "Chinese way" that might have existed during these thousands of years was inherently crushed in the second half of the 19th century. I mean, the party that runs the whole thing is the "cultural" creation of some European idealists who lived in the 19th century (from Saint-Simon and Fourier going to Marx and Engels). Not to mention that the Taiping Rebellion, which was to blame for the de…
That's exactly the point people are trying to make, just not so eloquently! (So in that sense I could say "woosh", because the parent comment sarcastically pointed out that the only valid way to understand it - as claimed by the CCP - happens to be only available to them, yet analytically it's just as easily deconstructed as any other totalitarian state, and not even completely new brand at that, because it's still very recognizably follows the "revolutionist" doctrine.)
However, at the same time people rightly point out that sure, it's totalitarian and rooted in socialism and whatever it was around in the 1920s, but it's full of Chinese characteristics. And ... somehow this makes it very indecipherable, and a-okay, and not a big human rights crisis. :|
Re: An update on YC China
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Huh. Claiming that there are no valid outer narrative is postmodern.
That is the central problem of the postmodern. It is a framework that inevitably dismisses itself when you go enough meta-level up.
I don't see why it dismisses itself. It asks questions, it's just philosophy at that point and the good old epistemological questions. But the first and second order thinking it encourages is a perfectly useful framework.
It helps understand situations vastly different from ours, but it doesn't dismiss your own core values.
It's probably a good postmodern conclusion that truly understanding the Chinese way is impossible without actually being completely in it, but at that point you are again too biased. But that doesn't mean that without a full immersion we can't gain valid insights about it. We can. We are perfectly aware of the big picture, we have seen it hundreds of times by now in various countries (and proto-countries) over the last few thousand years.