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The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

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Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

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post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'll come up for air around 3 and minor hobbies will re-emerge around 5. I would recommend finding some deeply informed and interesting podcasts on subjects you expect to be helpful in order to educate yourself passively during the early years.

And many parents we know (ourselves included) give up exercise. If at all possible, try to maintain some semblance of an exercise routine.

Best way to do that is bike to work.

Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

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This essay has a very individualist underlying assumption that one person has to do it all. Maybe that's not true? Could a community of hobbyists who share the same obsession make progress? If a lot of the effort comes from going down blind alleys until you hit on something, it seems like the work could be pretty easily distributed?

Of course they could. The success of many fan communities for topics (especially modding/ROM hacking/game development ones) often comes down to a largish group of dedicated hobbyists working together to push things forward. That's how you get stuff like SMW Central or Sonic Retro.

Same deal with stuff like speedrunning communities, eSports scenes, etc.

Or outside of that field, open source software development and web development in general. How many of the advancements in say, programming language design are made by hobbyists compared to academics?

Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

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post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And many parents we know (ourselves included) give up exercise. If at all possible, try to maintain some semblance of an exercise routine.

Best way to do that is bike to work.

Yeah, I commuted by bike until we had kids. Sadly, the preschool that we liked the most also wasn't easily bikable from the house. The kids now go to a school that is easily bikable, and it's a joy.

Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

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Before I read the article, I thought the “bus ticket” was referencing William Sidis, who in the early 20th century gave a mathematics lecture at MIT at 10, a Harvard student at 11, was expected to revolutionize math but then dropped out of the public eye to write strange books, one being an etymology of train and bus tickets across the US, collecting several thousand unique stubs. I bet that you could learn a lot about the flow of ideas and culture in the US from such a strange artifact, and while I agree with much of what PG says here, his definition of utility leans towards the economic sense. Also of note, Knuth has a section on his website devoted to photos of traffic signs!

Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

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In contrast to the essay, my hypothesis is currently that interest is developed. I used to be in the 'born talented camp', but then after reading Peak, The Talent Code, and other books on the subject (and essentially reviewing the research) I developed a 'born interested' hypothesis. In other words, some are born with innate interests that drive them toward deep and intense practice, developing skills and abilities or knowledge, that make them 'outliers'. Peak touches on this subject, and while it is certainly true that some level of interest is inherent, the (preliminary?) evidence is that this is only an inclination.

My personal experience (speaking as someone who is somewhat of an expert in a rather obscure oceanographic sub-field) is that the development of talent and interest (can) go hand in hand. You dig in, develop some skills, this opens up some possibilities that encourage (and provide encouragement) for you to develop further interest and further abilities, etc. The most radical form of the hypothesis is that we can develop a deep interest in almost anything. The 20 yr old me had no interest in the things that I am deeply interested in now.

For parents and future parents I will note that in contrast to PG's suggestion, having children has been a significant motivator and my best work has resulted in part from the desire to provide for them. It was also produced during the last 10 yrs that I have been a parent. I am far from any kind of genius or outlier however, and it seems likely that the time required to be one would conflict with the time spent raising children.

Overall, the evidence is that the brain is extremely pliable, that elite performers in any field put in many intensive hours of practice, and that to some extent their deep interest in their field developed over time. Perhaps conclusive research about the innateness of interest is out there. In the mean time, I also experiment with encouraging the depths of my children's interests.

Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

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> (...) The paths that lead to new ideas tend to look unpromising. If they looked promising, other people would already have explored them.

an ode to metaphorical basement dwellers and a warning to those roaming illuminated paths

  Nasreddin lost his ring in the basement of his house. He went outside and began searching. A curious passerby asked what he was doing. 
  "I've lost my ring" he said. "Where did you lose it?" asked the man.
  "In the basement of my house" he replied. "Then why not look for it there?" said the man. "Because it's dark in my basement, and I can't see a thing in there!"
> (...) But as with any hedge, you're decreasing reward when you decrease risk.

and a tool recently mentioned here for evaluating bets

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_criterion

Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

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I agree with his theory, but what I find particularly interesting is that I think most people do not have an obsessive interest in anything at all. And as someone who has obsessive interests in a lot of things (some “useful”, some not), that seems really odd to me: how can you just be satisfied to go to work, come home, watch TV, and go to bed each day? (Not saying that’s the wrong way to live, just saying it is surp…

> I am more financially comfortable than ever

Work part-time? I get 1-2 days off per week for projects (and house stuff) then in the evenings/weekends I actually have time and energy for playing with my child.

Plus, it's better for the environment than more work, more consumption.

Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

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I agree with his theory, but what I find particularly interesting is that I think most people do not have an obsessive interest in anything at all. And as someone who has obsessive interests in a lot of things (some “useful”, some not), that seems really odd to me: how can you just be satisfied to go to work, come home, watch TV, and go to bed each day? (Not saying that’s the wrong way to live, just saying it is surp…

I’m pretty much with you. And I can’t help but wonder as joining startups has clearly been sold as a path to riches, this site has shifted.

Here’s a benchmark question: is it better to be right or be popular?

Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

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post #203

On a more spiritual note, we're all bus ticket collectors. PG is defining "matters" as "what can make money", which is fine for a business-focused essay, but it does what we all attempt to do - convince ourselves that our domain has significance. The truth is, whether we're bus ticket collectors or Bill Gates, we're all headed to the grave. Bus tickets or billionaires, we're all getting burned up. Both science and re…

> PG is defining "matters" as "what can make money"

Did Newton or Darwin make a lot of money?

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