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The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

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Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

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Paul seems to write about obsession as something that can be cultivated. In my personal experience, this has been either a personality trait or extreme focus and hard work because of some expected reward. For me this article feels more like a motivational speech rather than an actual theory. Anyway - my question is this: Is that an elitist thought or is obsession also one of those things anyone can do if only...?

I think a tendency to become obsessed is simply a personality trait. Some people just aren't that way.

Depression, for example, can sap the motivation to do anything.

Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

#112
This essay has a very individualist underlying assumption that one person has to do it all. Maybe that's not true? Could a community of hobbyists who share the same obsession make progress?

If a lot of the effort comes from going down blind alleys until you hit on something, it seems like the work could be pretty easily distributed?

Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

#113

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I really enjoyed this article. For me, I have two main ones. Professionally, it is four freedoms computing and ways to empower people with it. Privately though, since I got out of the military, has been an obsession with geopolitics and geostrategy. You might be surprised how interrelated I increasingly think the two are.

What's it about geopolitics that makes it so interesting to you? It has always seemed like politicized BS to me. I think history shows quite well that once individuals and polities alike start on the path of pursuing/promoting some variety of economic freedom and classical liberal values (often including but not limited to what's known as liberal democracy), safety and stable cooperation become enough of a common int…

Not OP, but why not geopolitics? It's like thinking how your village's future will look like, but in a planet level...

For example the Iraq war quagmire has lead to Al-Qaida and ISIS (well, forest fires in Russia also caused grain harvests in Russia to suffer, food prices to go up, and the Arab Spring to happen), this has lead to the refugee crisis in Europe, that combined with austerity has lead to the rise of populism in Europe, and Brexit.

Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

#114
post #16

I think this is correct. The bad news is we are creating systems which minimise the number of geniuses entering each field. In the past, science was an eccentric hobby, not particularly valued and certainly not a viable career option. Today it's all of these things - like becoming a doctor. Telling your mother you want to be a scientist is far better than saying you want to be a musician. A hundred years ago that wou…

The BIGGEST problem with research is this: it's HARD, not easy, to understand. Most papers written are absolute trash. Not because the content is. Because it's written in a shitty, overly braggy way (especially mathematics and physics), that's mostly shouting "I'm better than you and if you don't get it, you're an idiot". They are not written with any USER, let alone, READER, in mind. Anyone would immediately be fired by a remotely consumer-centric company.

Wikipedia was a huge step in the right direction: making everything easier to understand. With lots of proofs and examples.

I think you could easily become billionaire by improving Wikipedia and the "make science and knowledge easily absorbable" 10X easier

Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

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> Perhaps the message is just that millions are delivered to those with a combination of luck and the freedom to pursue rationally unjustifiable interests. Where do you see that message? No luck was involved in your example, just hard work on behalf of the good players and of the Dota developers, and pursuing a hobby with passion is perfectly rational.

The luck is that that game turned out to be lucrative.

Which highly competitive endeavours, that millions of young people spend many hours per week on, aren't?

Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

#117
post #86

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> Perhaps the message is just that millions are delivered to those with a combination of luck and the freedom to pursue rationally unjustifiable interests. Where do you see that message? No luck was involved in your example, just hard work on behalf of the good players and of the Dota developers, and pursuing a hobby with passion is perfectly rational.

In my interpretation of the reply, they were "lucky" in that the field took off and became economically viable to be good at it. Frankly, back 20 years ago I would have never thought that watching someone play a game would become a form of entertainment.

> Frankly, back 20 years ago I would have never thought that watching someone play a game would become a form of entertainment.

Even after popular chess matches on TV in the 80's, 90's?

Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

#118
post #72

Competitive gaming is a particularly good example of this. I followed most of the rise of Dota from trashy Warcraft 3 mod to Valve's multi-million-dollar-prize-pool juggernaut. The first few crops of Dota millionaires all had the same backstory: "I played this game 14 hours a day. If there were tournaments at all they didn't really pay anything. My parents said I was wasting my life. I never had a girlfriend. Everyon…

Does being good at Dota count as being a genius? I think you are confusing financial success with contributing to artistic/scientific/intellectual progress.

Don't get hung up on the term genius, focus on the chance discovery part that is the actual topic of the article. Those first wave gaming professionals discovered a personal product market fit without trying, by being obsessed with an absurdly unprofitable pastime.

Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

#119
post #86

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> Perhaps the message is just that millions are delivered to those with a combination of luck and the freedom to pursue rationally unjustifiable interests. Where do you see that message? No luck was involved in your example, just hard work on behalf of the good players and of the Dota developers, and pursuing a hobby with passion is perfectly rational.

In my interpretation of the reply, they were "lucky" in that the field took off and became economically viable to be good at it. Frankly, back 20 years ago I would have never thought that watching someone play a game would become a form of entertainment.

> never thought that watching someone play a game would become a form of entertainment.

Then what the hell are NFL, NBA, etc? People have been watching others play a game as a form of entertainment for as long as society can remember:

Re: The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius

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I probably should have specified “besides tptacek.” He’s a fascinating outlier. He once claimed he was worried some Russians were going to harm him due to his HN comments. I still wonder if he was just saying that to sound cool, but truth is often strange. That average does put things into perspective though.

he sounds paranoid but hate sells well

How did you read 'hate' into that? Genuinely curious.

As an aside, I recently feel at odds with the language many people are using. The mere word 'hate' seems to have grown weird political connotations, while is suddenly okay to hate 'hate'. Is this not fostering the very emotion you revile, under twisted pretense? I remember 'love thy enemy' to have been the twist of the knife in peaceful protest, not sinking to their level with 'justified hate'. It feels hollow. If we want a change, we need to reach out first. /rant

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