When I ranted about how the transfer of DNS power under the Obama admin was a bad idea and stuff like this would happen I got called a crazy conspiracy theorist... I'm getting really tired of being right about bad things, the "I told you so" is very hollow.
Save .org
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#193If everything is as corrupt as some throwaway states why build a new domain registration system more free and open?
I know it's work however if done right (or better) a .org should be low cost for a NGO and how about a decent non profit tld so they could have it lower cost or free?
Sure it sounds hard but the automation and handling enrolling new domains is the real work
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
To me, this seems like a good case for government intervention. Domain names are critical infrastructure at this point.
Which government? Critical to whom?
It possibly fits within the portfolio of the ITU (although I guess the UN is intergovernmental, rather than a government).
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#195This is just awful. For everyone wondering "how bad can it really be?", they can put whatever cost they like to keep your domain registered. I have a small carpooling site for ski fields in New Zealand - snowpool.org . I've run this for 10 years, as a fun side project. If they hike the fees to 3K a year (or whatever) then there's just no way I'd keep it going. I've have to migrate somewhere else, which would be a com…
There's no higher authority than ICANN as far as domain names are concerned. That's why the letter says "help stop the sale", not "stop the sale".
Well, there's the US government. They could pass a law in theory at any rate. One of the arguments for allowing self regulating bodies like ICANN is they do a decent job but if that ceases to be the case it's kind of the governments job to step in.
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looks likes you’re wanting the decentralized web [0][1][2]. The DNS equivalent technology there is DHT(distributed hash tables) [3] which was used in torrent technology for a few years. Ever wondered about how you can find the torrent seeders without a centralized entity? The Bittorrent DHT is the underlying tech. [0] https://ipfs.io/ [1] https://dat.foundation/ [2] https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/ [3] https://en.wikipedi…
> Ever wondered about how you can find the torrent seeders without a centralized entity? The Bittorrent DHT is the underlying tech. The Bittorrent DHT is not fully decentralized, it needs a list of hardcoded bootstrap nodes. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1181301/how-does-a-dht-i...
Yes, sort of. That's one way to get peers, but clients support other ways to peers.
So in practice you can get peers from the list of previous peers, PEX (peer exchange), or a tracker for a given torrent.
So in practice once you talk to a few bittorrent peers (of millions) you likely are talking to another DHT peer and can bootstrap. Also given that there's typically millions of peers in the DHT, even brute forcing it by search IPv4 (4 billion addresses) for a few million peers is likely to only involve a few 1000 UDP packets or so.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is the case for all new gTLDs. .pro to .xyz to . accountant, the registry can put any price, be it zero or a million dollars.
.com has price caps. Imagine what happens when they remove those and they can just price everyone out of their .com names, names they may have had for 25+ years. Imagine a world where whomever has the most money can control your brand. What happens when McDonalds buys the Burger King brand because BK was priced out? .com, .org, and .net are long standing shared resources that should not have unlimited prices. They sh…
McDonalds and Burger King can duke it in court.
It will be more site the kind of wikileaks that could get effectively removed without having to go legal routes. Just have your friends price them out of their domains. Nobody needs to even buy the domains, they just need to be expensive enough to stay unused.
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#198Some further background on what happened. I don't see how this can be interpreted as anything other than corruption, plain and simple. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/20/org_registry_sale_s... "Former ICANN CEO Fadi Chehade personally registered the domain name currently used by Ethos Capital in May and it was registered as a limited company in the US state of Delaware on May 14. That date is significant becaus…
Posting from a throwaway account. I worked at one of the main TLDs for years and was on one of the ICANN boards and got to know the industry well. It is well know amongst the domain name community that ICANN is a poorly run organization, whose directors have in recent years have used their position of leadership to lead decisions from which they are afterwards benefiting themselves economically, in many cases by rush…
The process of mapping name=IP is not remotely technically difficult, and I'd dare say most people reading this message could implement the backend to such a system in a few days.
Setting up the peering replication and nameservers around the world is considerably harder, but it's definitely not a $10 billion+ problem (the current value of registrars and certificate authorities.) A startup funded by YC could handle that easily.
Dealing with all the companies trying to sue you over others squatting their domains and having to decide who has the better claim would be the most expensive part.
I really hate to say it because it's so cliche and overused, but a blockchain-like system could remove the central authority, the server costs, and the lawsuit risks. But it would introduce concerns over trust, most likely.
The really hard, unsolvable part is the unwillingness of the browser vendors to support an alternative domain name system. If Chrome, Firefox, and Safari all supported a new TLD outside of ICANN's control as a public service (let's call it "Let's Resolve" which would offer free domains and would be funded through donations), it would be very successful. If even one of them didn't support it, nobody would ever consider using it for their websites. Browser extensions, even if they allowed access to intercept domain name lookups, would not work. It would have to be supported out of the box in every major browser, and well, good luck with that. Anything failing to herd those three cats right out of the starting gate is absolutely dead on arrival.
Who knows though, maybe they'll raise .org prices just a bit too much, and piss off an established non-profit enough to start a huge campaign to create an alternative. But probably not.
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#199Some further background on what happened. I don't see how this can be interpreted as anything other than corruption, plain and simple. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/20/org_registry_sale_s... "Former ICANN CEO Fadi Chehade personally registered the domain name currently used by Ethos Capital in May and it was registered as a limited company in the US state of Delaware on May 14. That date is significant becaus…
Posting from a throwaway account. I worked at one of the main TLDs for years and was on one of the ICANN boards and got to know the industry well. It is well know amongst the domain name community that ICANN is a poorly run organization, whose directors have in recent years have used their position of leadership to lead decisions from which they are afterwards benefiting themselves economically, in many cases by rush…
Who'd have thought unaccountable private companies would act in their own best interest?
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#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
".org" is almost the standard for all community projects, there will be huge impact if the management went wrong.
What will be the impact?
Projects losing their ability to run their existing site because money, losing it to and significantly losing in visibility e.g. python.org or freebsd.org now advertising spyware or some shit with the historical ranking of a trusted and respected source.
Or these project having to plonk a significant amount of money in paying for their domains rather than .