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Personal and social information of 1.2B people discovered in data leak

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Re: Personal and social information of 1.2B people discovered in data leak

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I was at an Elasticsearch meetup yesterday where we had a good laugh about several similar scandals in Germany recently involving completely unprotected Elasticsearch running on a public IP address without a firewall (e.g. https://www.golem.de/news/elasticsearch-datenleak-bei-conrad... , in German). This beats any of that. Out of the box it does not even bind to a public internet address. Somebody configured this to…

Not to say this is what people are doing, but I don't think it requires much knowledge to run under Docker, and it's pretty easy to expose it to the public internet that way.

Re: Personal and social information of 1.2B people discovered in data leak

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I've been using ES off and on since before 1.0 came out. It has always baffled me that ES doesn't require a username and password by default. ES is a database that has to exist on a network to be usable. Heck, it expects that you have multiple nodes, and will complain if you don't. So one of the first things you do is expose it to the network so you can use it. Yes, it takes some serious incompetence to not realize y…

It has to exist on a private network behind a firewall with ports open to application servers and other es nodes only. Running things on a public ip address is a choice that should not be taken lightly. Clustering over the public internet is not a thing with Elasticsearch (or similar products). If you are running mysql or postgres on a public ip address it would be equally stupid and irresponsible regardless of the u…

>Having basic authentication in Elasticsearch would be the pointless equivalent.

Instead of that they could implement a PAKE. That would provide security with no certificates.

Re: Personal and social information of 1.2B people discovered in data leak

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It should be illegal for any company to store my private information like this. The 'anonymous' sharing of my information is easily de-anonymized. Sites asking for your phone number for "security purposes" are a joke. You just have to accept that absolutely everything you've done online is public information. If it isn't now, it is being stored and future tools / databases will make what is either difficult to access…

Using phone number as an example of private information is pretty hilarious. Remember when the phone company used to literally print your name and phone number in a book and send it to everyone in your town? Man, their security was terrible ! But it works perfectly fine as a two-factor auth mechanism to prove that whoever setup the account is the same person trying to log into it at some later time.

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Re: Personal and social information of 1.2B people discovered in data leak

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Totally serious. There are about a dozen people who regularly do this. One guy has missed 4-5 job interviews.

So is it typos? Like one letter off? I can imagine someone mistyping an address, and then reusing the "to" link.

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Re: Personal and social information of 1.2B people discovered in data leak

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I reported an issue to the LinkedIn competitor https://about.me two years ago where signing in with my Google credentials gives me access to some the account of some random other person with a similar name to me. I think that during registration, I attempted to register about.me/johnradio (except it's not "johnradio"), but he was already using it, and then the bug occurred that gave me this access. I randomly check e…

My gmail is my first initial followed by my last name. There are other people on this planet with same first initial and last name, some of whom seem to think that must be their email too, because I keep on getting emails where they used it to sign up for things.

I faced the same problem (though my name is not at all very common). Banks, mobile companies never did anything even after I repeatedly told them on phone and Twitter (and have kept a record of it).

One day after I had received a person's bank, mobile statement and many other bills for few months I decided to call him (his number was easily visible in many emails) and inform him of his mistake. He turned out to be lawyer and he said he will "decide" what to do about it. And the next thing I know is he sent a carefully drafted email (as a legal notice) that I should hand over my email address to him without further delay and all that.

I didn't do that. I talked to a lawyer friend and he just told me to reply with a "G F Y" card. I didn't do that either. But that pushed me to finally move my emails to my personal domain as it was/is a Gmail account and if someone complained Google would have just terminated my account and I don't know anyone who works at Google.

Re: Personal and social information of 1.2B people discovered in data leak

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I found a vulnerability in linkedIn a few years back that allowed anyone to access a private profile (because client side validation was enough for them I guess..?) They didn't take my report seriously (still not completely patched) and I feel like that told me all I needed to know about their security practices.

I reported an issue to the LinkedIn competitor https://about.me two years ago where signing in with my Google credentials gives me access to some the account of some random other person with a similar name to me. I think that during registration, I attempted to register about.me/johnradio (except it's not "johnradio"), but he was already using it, and then the bug occurred that gave me this access. I randomly check e…

I can only imagine about.me mass-creating profiles for names found on other web pages, and opening a way for someone to "claim" those profile with a matching Google account sign-in.

About.me's business model was quite unsettling to me and they have made little to no effort to protect the user data from scrapers.

Re: Personal and social information of 1.2B people discovered in data leak

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My gmail is my first initial followed by my last name. There are other people on this planet with same first initial and last name, some of whom seem to think that must be their email too, because I keep on getting emails where they used it to sign up for things.

I faced the same problem (though my name is not at all very common). Banks, mobile companies never did anything even after I repeatedly told them on phone and Twitter (and have kept a record of it). One day after I had received a person's bank, mobile statement and many other bills for few months I decided to call him (his number was easily visible in many emails) and inform him of his mistake. He turned out to be la…

That lawyer sounds like a douchebag. I super agree with your point too: I'm also slowly moving all my emails to my personal domain and it feels liberating.

Re: Personal and social information of 1.2B people discovered in data leak

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The number in the HN headline was changed from 1.2 billion to 1 billion (despite the original source's headline saying 1.2). It is kind of amazing that leaking the personal data of 200 million people is now just a rounding error that can be dropped from headlines.

Imho, it's more impressive that it's basically a non-story outside of it security news.

The general public just shrugs upon hearing such news. They still think there is nothing dangerous if their data gets leaked.

Re: Personal and social information of 1.2B people discovered in data leak

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Software should be secure by default. Don't blame the user. mySQL in comparison wont even let you install without setting a root password. And it only listen on localhost/unix-socket by default. Then you need to explicitly add another user if you want to allow it to login from a non local ip. I don't think it's even possible - to both set a blank root password and allow it to login from a public IP. So you really thi…

That MySQL stuff is all quite recent... up until 5.7 (?, one of the most recent releases, anyway) there's no root password by default and running `mysql_secure_installation` is a common (but not mandatory) step to, well, secure the installation and set a root password. I think MariaDB still works this way? Not sure. I'm not aware of "bind to localhost" being the default, either. The skip-networking setting to only al…

Every MySql install I've done in the last 5 years either bound exclusively to localhost or had skip-networking enabled by default.
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