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Google Kills Cloud Print

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Re: Google Kills Cloud Print

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Post by QueridoGuy »

I do believe that right after the event of the first google pixel, all google products were “failure” by their standards. they haven’t created anything big ever since. Same goes to Microsoft and their latest product kills. At least their new products are getting better now. Google never created anything significant. That’s why I wouldn’t trust their new products. They really need to stop publishing products that feels like beta.

Their plans always seem like: Beta-final release > take long time to finalize it > kill stage

Re: Google Kills Cloud Print

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Post by irrational »

I'd like the Unicode Consortium to add a surprised (but not really surprised) emoji that we only use when Google kills a product. I think this will be okay since we will be using it constantly.

Re: Google Kills Cloud Print

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Post by zymhan »

canada_dry wrote: post #237
dcchambers wrote: post #169

I am quick to complain when Google kills a useful project - but I am not mad about this. It was originally created because Chromebooks couldn't print. Chromebooks have been able to print natively for a while now so that is no longer needed. They are also giving over a year of warning. That's plenty of time for people to migrate to a new service or figure out how to implement an alternative. Again I know the Google Gr…

> They are also giving over a year of warning. That's plenty of time for people to migrate to a new service or figure out how to implement an alternative. Python 2 would like a word with you.

Except Python is a widely used language, and this is a simple service for end-users. You don't need to rewrite an app because they're shutting down cloud print.

Re: Google Kills Cloud Print

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Post by ben_jones »

QueridoGuy wrote: post #401

I do believe that right after the event of the first google pixel, all google products were “failure” by their standards. they haven’t created anything big ever since. Same goes to Microsoft and their latest product kills. At least their new products are getting better now. Google never created anything significant. That’s why I wouldn’t trust their new products. They really need to stop publishing products that feel…

Same goes for Microsoft? Looking through https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/allproducts thats a real stretch.

Re: Google Kills Cloud Print

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Post by zymhan »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #305
at_a_remove wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have, for many years, told people who get excited about an opportunity they see "don't build your stuff on top of someone else's free." I am starting to think that I need a similar saying about Google.

External dependencies are always a problem, free or paid.

Sure, but sometimes it's possible to solve that problem.

When Google kills off a service, it's usually pretty much impossible to solve.

Re: Google Kills Cloud Print

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Post by danans »

irq-1 wrote: post #394
danans wrote: post #332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Silo it off and just leave it be. Not really possible. It's an internet service that talks to large number of different printers from different manufacturers. Besides the code management issues others have mentioned, services like this require a great deal of product and partner coordination and testing effort to ensure that even small security patches don't break the heterogeneous ecosystem of devices. More import…

What are you going to use after this? A internet available print server? VPN?

The problem I had that cloudprint solved was printing from a Linux machine to a local non-Linux-compatible printer. With CUPS and driverless printers, this is no longer a problem. I don't generally need to print remotely to my printer.

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Post by projektfu »

I didn't see anything about the migration path for servers using the CloudPrint API. My medical records/pharmacy/invoicing software uses CloudPrint to reach printers. What are the alternatives for SAAS?

Re: Google Kills Cloud Print

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Post by irrational »

novaRom wrote: post #247
lxgr wrote: post #157

Nothing about Google killing products is quiet anymore. People have noticed, and I wonder if Google is really aware of the extent of the brand damage that headlines like this cause. Printing is the most corporate thing I can imagine, and even though it is not directly related, as a G Suite customer, this would make me extremely nervous.

The damage is real. It was one of the arguments against Google Cloud in my company.

Hah! Same with us! We had a meeting where we talked about should we move to Google Cloud, AWS or Azure. Google Cloud was crossed out within 5 minutes of the meeting starting because we have absolutely no confidence that it won't be killed. I don't care how much Google says it won't be. I don't believe them.

Re: Google Kills Cloud Print

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Post by kevinslashslash »

scarface74 wrote: post #307
_wldu wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems pretty bold and visionary to me. They've lucked out with gmail, chrome, golang, android, maps, etc. and they still have the best search in the world. Having a HIPPO tell everyone what to do, how to do it and when is not visionary. Letting engineers do what they want and then making money from the ideas is.

Chrome was split off from WebKit, Android was acquired. They didn’t build either from scratch. Compare their success to failure ratio to Apple, Amazon and Microsoft.

And Apple bought NeXT which is what macOS and iOS are based off of. A purity contest of "from scratch" isn't really relevant. Google clearly put, and continues to put, a lot of serious technical work into Chrome and Android which is reflected in their success.

Re: Google Kills Cloud Print

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Post by ben_jones »

dazc wrote: post #253
markstos wrote: post #204

I'm glad to see this one go. When you want to print from one device in a room to another, sharing a copy of the data with Google's servers halfway across the country seems like an odd and privacy-concerning way to accomplish that. I support relatives using Chromebooks and the old fashioned model is printing is much easier to explain and deal with! The wifi printers in my life never seem to maintain reliable connectio…

I bought a cloud enabled printer for my Dad, who uses a Chromebook. The only way I could get it to print reliably was to connect it to my Windows machine via a cable and have my dad email me whatever he wants to print. In other words, I now have two printers in my office to do what I was doing already with one.

Counterpoint, I bought my dad a chromebook and he bought a random printer on Amazon. Works fine after connecting both to the same wifi.
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