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Re: Google Kills Cloud Print

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Post by giggles_giggles »

scarface74 wrote: post #195
welly wrote: post #171

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To your own printer? Bluetooth or Wifi. I've got a Canon TS9150 printer and I can connect to it from my phone via wifi, either directly - phone to printer - or if the printer is on your wifi network, that way. Canon have an app for android phones that help you connect to your printer which works quite well.

Is this really a better user experience? On a Mac or any iOS device you just connect to a network and all of the printers just show up. You don’t need an app. I have a newer iPad but even my old first generation iPad that hasn’t seen an operating system update since 2011 will print to any of my three AirPrint printers. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the last time I had an Android device in my house (my son’s) don’t you…

I have an Android and have never, as far as I can remember, tried to print from it. For you, I opened a random web page and chose "print" and it somehow detected the HP printer on my home WiFi. No required apps, nothing special. It's just there.

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Post by daxfohl »

mey wrote: post #221
lxgr wrote: post #164

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Absolutely! Google Plus is the superior way of keeping up with blogs and news sites, and I am really enjoying texting with my friends over Allo ever since they discontinued Hangouts.

I prefer Google Reader

I assume parent poster was being sarcastic

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Post by archgoon »

brandmeyer wrote: post #205
zelly wrote: post #194

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They should just sell their dead products. I know they don't need money, but someone could probably maintain the Cloud Print codebase and add value to the world.

It wouldn't be practical. The great advantage of the monorepo is that it encourages teams to use libraries from almost anywhere in the company. One disadvantage is that it makes splitting out those codebases almost impossible.

Has happened though; Niantic for example.

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Post by tbodt »

ripdog wrote: post #75

>It's enterprise-ready Hahahahahaha oh man they actually wrote that. Sorry for the useless comment, but I just wonder how many companies got conned into basing their printing infrastructure on yet another Google experiment. I don't think it really matters, of course. Android phones have a full set of manufacturer-specific printing drivers which work fine over the local network, and geofft noted upthread that ChromeOS…

Google itself has based its printing infrastructure on Google Cloud Print. I have no idea how I'm supposed to print anything now.

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Post by Rebelgecko »

dcchambers wrote: post #169

I am quick to complain when Google kills a useful project - but I am not mad about this. It was originally created because Chromebooks couldn't print. Chromebooks have been able to print natively for a while now so that is no longer needed. They are also giving over a year of warning. That's plenty of time for people to migrate to a new service or figure out how to implement an alternative. Again I know the Google Gr…

IIRC this was also used for printing from Android, and the "replacement" app they released doesn't have the same features

Re: Google Kills Cloud Print

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Post by FactolSarin »

arkanciscan wrote: post #223
kllrnohj wrote: post #220

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Counter-argument: Just let it sit there and keep working? Outside of security patches, if there even are any, there's always the option of "just stop touching it." After all, the whole pitch of elastic compute is you only pay for what you use. It's not like resources are being freed up for other things here. The software industry is always on this treadmill of churn, leading to stable products continuing to have a co…

See: Google Play Music

Which I still prefer to YouTube music, it's theoretical replacement

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Post by canada_dry »

dcchambers wrote: post #169

I am quick to complain when Google kills a useful project - but I am not mad about this. It was originally created because Chromebooks couldn't print. Chromebooks have been able to print natively for a while now so that is no longer needed. They are also giving over a year of warning. That's plenty of time for people to migrate to a new service or figure out how to implement an alternative. Again I know the Google Gr…

> They are also giving over a year of warning. That's plenty of time for people to migrate to a new service or figure out how to implement an alternative.

Python 2 would like a word with you.

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Post by dehrmann »

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #159
Retric wrote: post #97

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My guess is these things are generally unprofitable because their internal costs are so used to operating as a near monopoly they simply can’t do anything on the cheap. Which ends up killing off seemingly viable products. It’s much like how bell labs invented so much great technology, but could never make the transition to new producers themselves.

They might not be wrong. Engineers who could be maintaining mildly profitable products could be invented new products that have some percentage chance of being much more profitable. If someone did the math and said the expected value of "engineer working on new projects" was bigger than the expected value of of the the profits of an existing project divided by the number of engineers needed to maintain it, then it'd…

> Engineers...could be invent[ing] new products that have some percentage chance of being much more profitable

Doubtful. The successful products to come out of Google are Search, GMail, and GCP. They bought Adwords, Doubleclick, Android, Youtube, and Nest and Fitbit, I suppose. GCP is their only recent win, but it's a me-too late entrant in a market Google should have invented.

Re: Google Kills Cloud Print

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Post by [deleted] »

thfuran wrote: post #179
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #159

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They might not be wrong. Engineers who could be maintaining mildly profitable products could be invented new products that have some percentage chance of being much more profitable. If someone did the math and said the expected value of "engineer working on new projects" was bigger than the expected value of of the the profits of an existing project divided by the number of engineers needed to maintain it, then it'd…

What's the expected value of not having your brand known for routinely canceling products without much notice? It seems like any company would have to be crazy to want to depend on any new Google service for anything important - and that's bad for Google.

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