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Deepfakes: MIT brings Nixon's Apollo disaster speech to life

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Re: Deepfakes: MIT brings Nixon's Apollo disaster speech to life

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Post by Swizec »

TimMurnaghan wrote: post #2

It still looks wrong. There's still some of the floating/stuck-on head feeling about it. Or is that just because we already know it's fake from the headline? (... and the way that the flag moves is totally wrong .../s).

Honestly even knowing it was fake I had a hard time convincing myself it was fake. My only clue was the way his chin intersected with the collar looked a little off

But I’ve seen things look off like that in real life under certain lighting conditions so I would’ve waved it away.

Re: Deepfakes: MIT brings Nixon's Apollo disaster speech to life

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Post by 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 »

I find it amusing that Congress has suddenly become so interested in the dangers of deep fakes. When they started going on and on about the dangers I thought “why is this dude so worried?”.

Then of course the Epstein stuff becomes news[1] months later and the cynical part of me can’t help but think they’re looking for a defense if they ever partied at his island or ranch.

1. https://nypost.com/2019/11/18/jeffrey-epstein-accuser-claims...

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Post by egdod »

lefstathiou wrote: post #20

Part of me feels that the widespread proliferation of deep fakes can potentially be positive. Seeing will no longer be believing and society will be forced to look at things with a more critical and skeptical eye or with a higher level of diligence. Value should also shift back to more legitimate sources. The transition will certainly suck though.

That’s awfully optimistic. Even when seeing shouldn't be believing, people still will.

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Post by jacquesm »

jedberg wrote: post #8
TimMurnaghan wrote: post #2

It still looks wrong. There's still some of the floating/stuck-on head feeling about it. Or is that just because we already know it's fake from the headline? (... and the way that the flag moves is totally wrong .../s).

You’d have to be paying real close attention to notice that, which you are primed to do because you’ve been told it’s a deep fake. You’re probably also more of an expert than most. But think of the general US electorate. How many of them, seeing this clip on the news as they prepare dinner, would know it’s fake?

Real life is not exactly preparing people for spotting fakes these days. The bizarre is real, the plausible will likely get a pass.

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Post by personjerry »

lefstathiou wrote: post #20

Part of me feels that the widespread proliferation of deep fakes can potentially be positive. Seeing will no longer be believing and society will be forced to look at things with a more critical and skeptical eye or with a higher level of diligence. Value should also shift back to more legitimate sources. The transition will certainly suck though.

That's only the case if making the fakes becomes a very easy and common thing to do. I think more likely the case will be that certain already-powerful groups will have more ability to make these fakes and thus actually make the balance of information influence even worse.

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Post by axiomdata316 »

lefstathiou wrote: post #20

Part of me feels that the widespread proliferation of deep fakes can potentially be positive. Seeing will no longer be believing and society will be forced to look at things with a more critical and skeptical eye or with a higher level of diligence. Value should also shift back to more legitimate sources. The transition will certainly suck though.

More likely everything even legitimate things will be 'poo pooed' as fake. Believing in nothing is as dangerous as believing everything. It's both a form of credulity.

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Post by DoofusOfDeath »

TimMurnaghan wrote: post #2

It still looks wrong. There's still some of the floating/stuck-on head feeling about it. Or is that just because we already know it's fake from the headline? (... and the way that the flag moves is totally wrong .../s).

Both the head-motion and the voice seemed a little jumpy/choppy to me, reminiscent of Max Headroom.

Do authentic TV recordings of Nixon have that same quality?

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Post by Vysero »

TimMurnaghan wrote: post #2

It still looks wrong. There's still some of the floating/stuck-on head feeling about it. Or is that just because we already know it's fake from the headline? (... and the way that the flag moves is totally wrong .../s).

I agree, I could tell. The shadowing was wrong, he looks like a bobble head. That being said, it was too close for my comfort... it won't take long before they can fool anyone.
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