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Re: Tesla Cybertruck

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Post by criddell »

sytelus wrote: post #484

Stupid question: what’s up with trucks in urban areas? I understand the utility of a truck in rural/farm setting but never figured why folks want to lug around that pointless empty half while living in cities. Two of the folks I know who owns trucks have used empty halfs probably twice in a year when bringing home some furniture but that too could have delivered free by the store. Again, as I said, stupid question.

A truck in an urban area doesn't seem any stupider than a sports car. It's just a fun vehicle that people like to drive.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck

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Post by grecy »

waiseristy wrote: post #306

I feel like I am taking crazy pills with the amount of good sentiment to this design. This thing is absolutely fugly. The guys over at Rivian must be having a party right now.

> The guys over at Rivian must be having a party right now

Except the base Tesla is $20,000 cheaper than the base Rivian.

The High end Telsa (with 500+ miles of range and 2.9 0-60) is the same price as the base Rivian.

Rivian are shitting themselves right now about pricing.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck

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Post by andrew_ »

rusk wrote: post #660
Pxtl wrote: post #639

I'm a child of the 80s. I remember StarFox and the F-117 stealth plane being the neatest stuff ever. The old lambo countache with the faceted shape that was almost starwars-y and was the coolest thing on wheels. I'm nostalgic about those things. So this polygonal look is targeting my demo. ... That is the goddamned ugliest vehicle I've ever seen.

> That is the goddamned ugliest vehicle If the Porsche Cayenne is anything to go by it will do well

So true it's painful.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck

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Post by fyfy18 »

growlist wrote: post #584
eo3x0 wrote: post #81

I know a lot of folks are walking away from the puzzling aesthetic but I think that’s the point. Existing Tesla owners with a taste for existing design cues won’t push Tesla sales any further. They’ve got to expand the demographic and this design has a chance to do this. Think of all the wrangler, hummer, truck buyers who want a militaristic, rough, unpolished steel look and this is that flavor taken to an extreme. O…

You also need to look at the Eastern market - Chinese/Middle East markets are apparently what is driving the outrageous size of BMW's grills, and many other extreme design elements currently en vogue.

In the Middle East the Land Cruiser V8 is king. It's not because of looks (although IMO they don't look bad), but what it can do.

Can you use this to overtake someone on the hard shoulder (half covered in sand) and go bumming around sand dunes? That's what Tesla have got to do to win there.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck

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Post by pault »

sambull wrote: post #699
Pxtl wrote: post #639

I'm a child of the 80s. I remember StarFox and the F-117 stealth plane being the neatest stuff ever. The old lambo countache with the faceted shape that was almost starwars-y and was the coolest thing on wheels. I'm nostalgic about those things. So this polygonal look is targeting my demo. ... That is the goddamned ugliest vehicle I've ever seen.

Weirdly reminds be of the lambos I was in love with as a kid

Go back and look at the lines and proportions of the countach[0] and look again at the cybertruck. It reminds me of a lambo in the same way that the phantom menace reminds me of a new hope.

[0] https://rmsothebys-cache.azureedge.net/a/a/2/9/4/f/aa294f0f2...

Re: Tesla Cybertruck

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Post by almost_usual »

sytelus wrote: post #484

Stupid question: what’s up with trucks in urban areas? I understand the utility of a truck in rural/farm setting but never figured why folks want to lug around that pointless empty half while living in cities. Two of the folks I know who owns trucks have used empty halfs probably twice in a year when bringing home some furniture but that too could have delivered free by the store. Again, as I said, stupid question.

There are a ton of contractors in cities, in the Bay Area they probably make more than tech workers. There are also construction workers _everywhere_.

There are mosquito fleet trucks in SF whose whole purpose is to collect recycling and take it to the recycling center.

In western cities there are off-road enthusiasts who camp at places you can’t get to without a modified vehicle and winch (no crowded campsites).

Some people just like trucks and will buy them because why not?

Re: Tesla Cybertruck

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Post by jiofih »

select-all wrote: post #717

The renders on their site are exceptionally bad. They don't even look quite like renders, rather hand-made sketches with textures applied on top. The design of the truck is not that bad and I bet the car would look fantastic in real life and on real photos, with all the minor detail, reflections and the feel of the real material, that is now missing.

Most are not renders, just heavy photoshop.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck

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Post by pfdietz »

whatshisface wrote: post #678
Pxtl wrote: post #639

I'm a child of the 80s. I remember StarFox and the F-117 stealth plane being the neatest stuff ever. The old lambo countache with the faceted shape that was almost starwars-y and was the coolest thing on wheels. I'm nostalgic about those things. So this polygonal look is targeting my demo. ... That is the goddamned ugliest vehicle I've ever seen.

Tesla doesn't have the manufacturing capacity to sell a truck to everybody, and people that love something are willing to pay more than people who only mildly like something, so it makes sense that they would design a highly polarizing truck that a few people loved but everybody else hated. It's reminiscent of the economic model of fursuit manufacturers.

Wow, that is not the analogy that I would have first chosen.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck

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Post by ubermonkey »

sytelus wrote: post #484

Stupid question: what’s up with trucks in urban areas? I understand the utility of a truck in rural/farm setting but never figured why folks want to lug around that pointless empty half while living in cities. Two of the folks I know who owns trucks have used empty halfs probably twice in a year when bringing home some furniture but that too could have delivered free by the store. Again, as I said, stupid question.

I live in Houston, where there are LOTS of very very clean very very expensive pickups. Most are status symbols that rarely see any true use.

However, in my immediate social group, there are LOTS of smaller trucks or smaller SUVs, mostly because of the practicality for bicycling trips. Sure, you can do a roof rack or a hitch rack, but if you want to go out to the hill country with you and your wife and both MTB and road bikes, you find yourself wishing for a truck bed pretty fast.

There's lots of overlap in this group with other outdoor activities -- camping, hiking, some fishing, a very small amount of hunting -- that reward actual trucks. My friend J has a full-size (read: HUGE) Ford with back seats and a long bed, and uses the HELL out of it, since he travels back and forth to Colorado with bikes pretty frequently.

But he and his wife also have a VW they use for most urban driving. ;)

Re: Tesla Cybertruck

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Post by barry-cotter »

JeremyNT wrote: post #612
sytelus wrote: post #484

Stupid question: what’s up with trucks in urban areas? I understand the utility of a truck in rural/farm setting but never figured why folks want to lug around that pointless empty half while living in cities. Two of the folks I know who owns trucks have used empty halfs probably twice in a year when bringing home some furniture but that too could have delivered free by the store. Again, as I said, stupid question.

In some cases it seems like pure conspicuous consumption. The sheer impracticality of it is a badge of honor. This is not atypical for American consumerism. In fact, I wonder about the Tesla truck's appeal. I feel like the oversized truck's negative ecological impact is one part of its appeal, do does an electric truck actually end up selling? Here in the South, some pickup drivers modify their exhausts to spew toxic…

> This is not atypical for American consumerism.

Conspicuous consumption is an enormous part of consumerism absolutely everywhere. Wearing a $20,000 suit is conspicuous consumption to those who can tell that’s what you’re wearing but we don’t generally call it that because it’s only conspicuous if you’re in the know.

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