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Re: The 40% Keyboard

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Post by Yizahi » Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 10:20 AM UTC

the_gipsy wrote: post #302

AWildC182 wrote: post #288

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Do you do any of them for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year? Used to row about 20 hours a week for a few years. It does the same thing if you're not careful.

Some people certainly do, and I didn't question that. I question the "fact" that straight wrists matter over all other things.

What "other" things? Carpal syndrome is an official illness with clearly defined causes - squeezing and damaging nerves and arteries in the wrist, in the thinnest moving point of a hand. There are no "other" things (in the scope of this post, about keyboards) and yes, it is a fact.

Re: The 40% Keyboard

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Post by usrusr » Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 12:11 PM UTC

pletnes wrote: post #177

usrusr wrote: post #161

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But why is less movement automatically considered better? Screen work is sedentary enough even without movement-minimized input placement. The downsides of repetition are best battled by increasing variation.

Static arm rotated outwards. Dynamic movement would be great but the arm tends to get stuck out there for some time. Might apply more to photoshoppers and less to vim users though.

[a late answer, but now the threads is old enough to legitimately get lost on tangents]

Are you talking about a "full hand rest" mouse? Because there is no static load on the arm when operating a mouse that is hardly ever touched with more than fingertips, while the base of the hands is resting on the table.

Re: The 40% Keyboard

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Post by GrayShade » Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 12:32 PM UTC

boring_twenties wrote: post #324

GrayShade wrote: post #301

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I did that, but never used it. I still find pressing Ctrl to be more comfortable because it requires less movement.

How does it require less movement? It's directly adjacent to the A key -- only the pinky needs to move, and only one key over. To hit the key in the lower-left corner you basically have to twist your whole hand at the wrist -- not only is that more movement, it probably raises the risk of RSI to the wrist. What am I missing?

I usually press Ctrl with the pad under my pinky finger (and sometimes the part of my palm below it). The way I hold my hand, this is just a tiny flick of my wrist. To press Caps Lock I would have to move and curl my pinky instead.

Re: The 40% Keyboard

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Post by Leherenn » Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 6:34 PM UTC

Symbiote wrote: post #238

dsego wrote: post #231

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My thinking was, hey if I can learn to fret my guitar chords with my left hand, than I can learn to use the mouse. I also hold the knife in my right and fork in my left.

> I also hold the knife in my right and fork in my left. That's the usual way for Europeans. I never realized Americans did it differently, until we gained an American colleague at lunchtimes, and ... well, it just looked a lot more complicated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_utensil_etiquette#Europ...

I didn't know there was a standard, but I have seen people do the switch before, and it looked inefficient.

I guess I am a reversed-European, despite being right-handed. Fork in right hand and knife in left hand. It's always a bit awkward at first when taking up the cutlery because I have to switch at that time.

Funnily enough, there's also a standard when putting down cutlery on the plate, and I have remarks for this while never for the way I eat (they probably assume I am left handed).