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Totalitarian actions of the regime primarily against Muslim minorities (Uighurs), including concentration camps with >1M people.
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Fighting the good fight to maintain your social credit score, eh?
An update on YC China
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While I completely agree with you, YC is a private organization and not a political one. The above message allows everyone to save face while getting the job done. YC doesn't need to say anything beyond this.
And yet private organizations so often want to sit on the moral perch and pet themselves about all the non-profit oriented actions they take.
And that is their right, and nothing wrong with that IMHO. And, I will support that.
However, I was simply noting that it is not a requirement for private organizations.
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All else being equal, sure. But China are still making construction workers into nuveau-riche at a prodigious rate. They're creating the proto-Rockefellers and proto-Carnegies of China, right now. Those people, and especially their children (who would become the actual Rockefellers and Carnegies of China), are going to have some impact. China might "manage" (i.e. suppress) that impact, but a large bourgeoisie class i…
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The US certainly has its problems, but I don't think it's fair to draw a moral equivalence with what's happening in China.
Chinese citizen here. I guess you're implying that certain bad things are happening in China. Do you really live in China and see those things happen, or just hear about them from the media? And is it possible that some of the media in US are inhonest? Just as there're inhonest media in China. I'm not fighting you on this topic; just don't understand why there's so much hatred towards our country.
Simply go south and take a look what's happening in Hong Kong right now. Is that bad enough?
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Step 2: globally orchestrated sanctions on a fascist dictatorship Step 2b: hopefully we avoid WWIII
That might work for a smaller country like South Africa, but China too big for that. China could probably make everything it needs itself, or learn in a decade or two. So it sounds to me like a new iron curtain, leaving both sides poorer and the people caught in the middle suffering from the separation. (And good luck fighting global warming.) But though there's a lot of pressure to choose your side, I doubt every co…
I don't think that is correct. In fact 1) China is massive with huge labor class, 2) China is heavily export driven, 3) current generation in China has been affluent.
So, even moderate global sanctions will have a massive impact with both affluent class and the labor class revolting.
However, remember, oil embargo drove Japan to WW-2, I'm sure China will react similarly unless that internal revolt happens first. Too difficult to predict.
Re: An update on YC China
#196I applaud this move. Given the recent history of actions by the Chinese government, investment in China is not ethical.
I doubt it's about ethic, it's about the ability to protect your investment on foreign turf, in the current climate.
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Totalitarian actions of the regime primarily against Muslim minorities (Uighurs), including concentration camps with >1M people.
Yeah, no, I've read a newspaper in the last year. What exactly does that have to do with YC? They're withdrawing from China.
He's saying its weird they are withdrawing without saying why, when the human rights atrocities are likely a big factor.
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Fighting the good fight to maintain your social credit score, eh?
There is so much misinformation regarding China. China helps all sorts of countries against western aggression. I support socialist projects like China and do not support a straight "free market" capitalist system. I like that they have state owned enterprises. I do not support the Hong Kong terrorists and really no one in the international left does.
Re: An update on YC China
#199I would expect more, and more direct language. Doing business with a fascist state or in a fascist state is deplorable. The message should be loud and clear. China today shares many parallels with Germany in the 1930s. There needs to be open frank opposition because embarrassing them is the only way to stop them until the US is willing to park an aircraft carrier group in HK waters.
While I completely agree with you, YC is a private organization and not a political one. The above message allows everyone to save face while getting the job done. YC doesn't need to say anything beyond this.
You can't say you're an apolitical organization when you work with China given the way running a business in China works.
The message is obvious that companies are afraid of angering the Chinese government by speaking ill of it as they commit increasing atrocities because that could potentially eat into their profit margins. Profit over people.