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The 16-inch MacBook Pro is a repudiation of the ‘Ive Doctrine’

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Re: The 16-inch MacBook Pro is a repudiation of the ‘Ive Doctrine’

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> its commitment to an entirely USB-C lifestyle was premature

For me, going all-in on USB C is one of the best features of the 2016 model in terms of flexibility: any port can be a power, video, network, or USB port. Bad keyboard (butterfly) and trackpad (broken palm rejection) and virtual ESC key, not so much.

Re: The 16-inch MacBook Pro is a repudiation of the ‘Ive Doctrine’

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That's the reason why there was a USB port on each side of the original Apple keyboard (not the wireless one of course). These ports (on the back) are most likely located there with the idea of having a device pluggued in for good and not moved so often.

If memory serves me well those keyboard USB ports weren't amped enough to handle power hungry devices though.

They were primarily for connecting a wired Apple mouse on the appropriate side for a left or right-handed user.

Re: The 16-inch MacBook Pro is a repudiation of the ‘Ive Doctrine’

#93

> its commitment to an entirely USB-C lifestyle was premature For me, going all-in on USB C is one of the best features of the 2016 model in terms of flexibility: any port can be a power, video, network, or USB port. Bad keyboard (butterfly) and trackpad (broken palm rejection) and virtual ESC key, not so much.

And a bargain at only $200/port. (MacBook Pro 13" price with 2 vs 4 ports).

Re: The 16-inch MacBook Pro is a repudiation of the ‘Ive Doctrine’

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I think Ive needed Jobs to provide some user feedback he would listen to ahead of product release. Without Jobs, it's taken Apple years to get keyboards back on track. Which is absurd given that their desktop keyboard is really good. I haven't bought any Apple products for years, except for their peripherals. Their touchpad is excellent, and there's no other alternative in the market I know of that works decently in…

"Which is absurd given that their desktop keyboard is really good." I guess that is pretty subjective. I for one, hate Apple desktop keyboards. Not only the feel of it, but the layout (in my country) is different than the PC keyboards which drives me nuts.

In recent versions of macOS the PC keyboard layout is builtin the OS, so no external tools are needed anymore.

Re: The 16-inch MacBook Pro is a repudiation of the ‘Ive Doctrine’

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> I use this as a reminder not to drink my own kool aid. Even if I'm being recognized at being good at something, it's not an excuse to double down on it and push it too hard. No one is applauded for being judiciously balanced. But for a lot of things it can be positive if recognition motivates you to do more. Like can you ever be too good of an athlete? Too good of a programmer?

I'm not sure if there even is any universal measure for how good of a programmer you are. There's probably someone who's really good at optimizing the hell out of a really hot loop that absolutely has to be faster, never mind if the code is comprehensible to mere mortals. And somebody who can design and architect a huge, complex enterprise program well enough that a newbie developer can quickly get an idea of what's…

Yeah, from the outside it seems like things had to be thinner and lighter to be Apple designed, in the same way that some programmers think they have to architect or optimise or the heck out of everything. If you do it well once you’ll be a hero, but if you do it to everything while losing sight of your actual goals (customer satisfaction, business value, righteous cause) you’ll eventually be cast as a villain.

Re: The 16-inch MacBook Pro is a repudiation of the ‘Ive Doctrine’

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Heavier to the point that I experience pain handling it for long periods of times especially if I have to use one hand only. Shortly said the weight makes it uncomfortable to use. A clear example where "syle"/fashion is valued more than usuability.

How is it fashionable for the phone to be heavier?

Apparently the weight makes it "feel" more premium/solid. The shiny steel and back glass give it a more premium feel as well(on top of the extra weight). I guess this follows the Watch Edition/gold strategy.

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> it's taken Apple years to get keyboards back on track This was a conscious decision, they could have reverted the mistake in 12 months if they had truly wanted. But it would require burning a production line and design roadmap that was supposed to last 3 years. Turned out having users buy an inherently faulty $2000+ product for 3 years and a repair program was the easier pill to swallow. Tim Cook isn't a product pe…

The iOS devices haven't suffered similarly though. Those products have been developing fine. Apple just hasn't cared enough about the Mac (the Mac Pro is proof of that). I've read reports (could be false) that all the A players go on the iOS teams, and the ones left on the Mac teams are the handful of truly passionate, and the B players. (well if you read other reports, the A players go to Google where they pay bette…

If google has so many A players then why are so many of the services in a poor state? You could point to any google service, outside of drive/docs etc., and have severe complaints about it.
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