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If I'm Neumann, I'm taking 200-250 million dollars of my 1.7 billion in winnings and giving it away to the laid off employees (about 90k each). Imagine the positive press you could drum up about yourself! All while keeping 1.5 billion dollars!
Why?
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> ...he believed in his own spin and was phenomenally successful at building a large, real business. Successful at building a large, real business selling $10 bills for $8. It's a dreadful business, they lose money hand over fist with no path to stopping the bleeding. For a while now, any company who could claim to be a "tech" company like WeWork (an objectively real estate company) did was able to raise on terms tha…
> selling $10 bills for $8. The classic "We lose money on every sale, but make it up in volume" approach.
I still can't believe this guy gets to walk away with 1.7 billion dollars just for building up fluff while all the people who helped him grow have dire consequences both financial and personal. Unbelievable that this guy gets a clean chit, and all this isn't considered criminal. This to me is almost at the scale of Theranos. Only, this guy was smarter in the legal side of things, perhaps.
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I don’t really see why it’s his fault investors over valued his company — he believed in his own spin and was phenomenally successful at building a large, real business. This was not like Theranos where he was straight up lying about a product working — anyone could analyze the business based on the fundamentals, and investors seemed ever willing to invest at high valuations. The self dealing was reprehensible and ev…
> ...he believed in his own spin and was phenomenally successful at building a large, real business. Successful at building a large, real business selling $10 bills for $8. It's a dreadful business, they lose money hand over fist with no path to stopping the bleeding. For a while now, any company who could claim to be a "tech" company like WeWork (an objectively real estate company) did was able to raise on terms tha…
It didn't even buy properties.
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I don’t really see why it’s his fault investors over valued his company — he believed in his own spin and was phenomenally successful at building a large, real business. This was not like Theranos where he was straight up lying about a product working — anyone could analyze the business based on the fundamentals, and investors seemed ever willing to invest at high valuations. The self dealing was reprehensible and ev…
Wait, did he not use company funds to buy real estate in his own name and then lease them back to the company? That is still not illegal but super shady. You cannot paper over things with "investors overvalued it" logic. He went to extra lengths to make his cheating legal.
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I don’t really see why it’s his fault investors over valued his company — he believed in his own spin and was phenomenally successful at building a large, real business. This was not like Theranos where he was straight up lying about a product working — anyone could analyze the business based on the fundamentals, and investors seemed ever willing to invest at high valuations. The self dealing was reprehensible and ev…
> was phenomenally successful at building a large, real business What? How? He built an 8b business with 16b in investment. Anyone can do that. Take 16b, put it in index funds, call yourself an investment bank. You'd get better returns than -50%, for sure.
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Uber isn'ta Ponzi scheme. I use Uber all the time, as does everyone I know. Hell, I even drove for them for a while. They provide a needed service and they are subsidizing that to get rid of competition like Lyft and to grow a huge user base. Then, it's likely they will raise prices and start making money. But it is not a Ponzi scheme. Last I checked, a local taxi company that is still in business wants $30 to take m…
> But it is not a Ponzi scheme. Last I checked, a local taxi company that is still in business wants $30 to take me into town, which is 5 miles away. Uber is $7. The cost of that $7 are the billions they lose every quarter. It's not sustainable. They're a public company now, so to come up with fresh cash, they have to issue bonds and pay interest on them. How will they repay it when they aren't generating fresh cash…
Cheap rides are to gain marketshare and customer acquisition. Not saying the strategy will be fruitful but it is a strategy.
I’m glad I was included in the lay-offs. The situation was unbearable.
If I'm Neumann, I'm taking 200-250 million dollars of my 1.7 billion in winnings and giving it away to the laid off employees (about 90k each). Imagine the positive press you could drum up about yourself! All while keeping 1.5 billion dollars!
This would upset me if I was one of the remaining employees.