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Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by TMWNN »

teh_klev wrote: post #364
coldpie wrote: post #328

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Feedly's quite good, and they have a business model that isn't driven by abuse of their users.

I have tried it in the past, but it just ain't the same, I wasn't filled with joy and its UI annoyed me. Maybe I'll try again.

I am pretty sure that I tried Feedly in the post-"Oh no, Google Reader is going away!" panic everyone else using the service was in at the time, and like you I could not replicate the feel. The Old Reader was the closest alternative I found among the several I tried, but soon afterwards Inoreader appeared with a very, very, very close-to-Google Reader feel, and I've been extremely happy on it ever since. (If only Inoreader would correctly open the comment link and not the original article in the HN RSS feed.)

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by knodi123 »

UserIsUnused wrote: post #419
knodi123 wrote: post #317

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> Look toward Microsoft or Sony instead "Playstation Now" came out years ago. You can stream games, or you can cache the executable locally if you have a dodgy connection or want to go offline. And if I'm reading this correctly, you don't need to pay for the individual games, either - just the service.

"Playstation now" was just a rebranded acquisition and is not fully released to be played on phones/ipads etc in all areas. Nor did it had half the markting of Stadia. It's seemed more of a test bed, for something they plan to do together with the PS5

Oh, that's interesting. Do you have any more information about the acquisition? Everything I've read online said they developed it in-house.

> not fully released to be played on phones/ipads etc in all areas

Yes, the feature set is different. But, again, debuted in 2014. And it is available on PC, which shows that at least it's somewhat cross-platform.

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/playstation-now/ps...

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by knodi123 »

krzyk wrote: post #552
knodi123 wrote: post #318

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They already did it five years ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Now

I think that was an acquisition, and the choice of games is very poor, it looks like they use PS3 there.

> the choice of games is very poor

Ha, well, that's what all the critics are saying about Stadia, but PS Now has ~800 titles. So it's still pretty comparable.

> looks like they use PS3 there

They have some PS4 games too.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by shadowgovt »

inetknght wrote: post #570
shadowgovt wrote: post #564

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Internet systems are one part technology and one part social. If my mail server is banning mail from Yahoo, I can't communicate with my grandparents and I stop using that mail server. Enough people do that and the mail server has no users. inetknght, I get the sense that you run a mail server of your own. Have you taken your own advice here and blocked @yahoo.com incoming? Is it inconvenient? Is it more inconvenient…

> If my mail server is banning mail from Yahoo, I can't communicate with my grandparents and I stop using that mail server. Enough people do that and the mail server has no users. Why are your grandparents using Yahoo instead of your mail server? > Have you taken your own advice here and blocked @yahoo.com incoming? Is it inconvenient? Is it more inconvenient than the two-step process of setting up a Gmail account? I…

> Why are your grandparents using Yahoo instead of your mail server?

Because internet systems are one part technology and one part social. My grandparents already have Yahoo accounts and are unwilling to change that.

And if your solution to interoperating with Yahoo servers is "I don't have anyone to talk to using Yahoo servers," then I'm afraid it sounds like you're trying to solve a problem other than the one email is designed to solve.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by [deleted] »

WorldMaker wrote: post #461
whynaut wrote: post #455

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> If you have Stadia Pro and you stop paying, you lose access to the free games that are included with Pro, which right now are Destiny 2 and Samurai Showdown. This is the same as Xbox Live Gold and the Free Games with Gold. Games With Gold are actually free. You need the Gold membership to get them, but you can unsubscribe - they're yours. Edit: You may be thinking of Game Pass, which behaves in the way you describe…

Yes on the 360 because its Store was never built with Memberships in mind. No on the Xbox One (and PC where applicable) where a lapse in your Gold status will make those games unplayable until you rejoin.

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Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by d1zzy »

sjs382 wrote: post #496
adambyrtek wrote: post #337

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Sure but how would that work for Stadia?

With Stadia, this concept probably relates more to game saves more so than games . [0] It's just your data—finding something that can use the data is another story. That's beside the point, though—my reply, it's parent and it's grandparent were discussing Google products generally, not Stadia specifically. [0] I realize that Takeout doesn't support Stadia. Though, for two different Stadia titles (Destiny 2's "cross-p…

That would be true if you're thinking of Stadia as a subscription to get access to an all you can eat buffet of games (ie Netflix for games) but that's not the primary model proposed. The primary Stadia purchase model is that you buy games on Stadia and then get "free" unlimited streaming of them. In that case if they were to shutdown the user has to get something back, preferably the game...

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by conradfr »

joshuamorton wrote: post #491
monocasa wrote: post #353

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But for stadia, where the game licenses, executables, and probably save games probably can't be exported legally, how does one provide a migration paths once Google inevitably says "servers are shutting down in three months. You will lose access to everything on that date. We will give you a month free or something that in no way makes up for the service shutting down and you losing everything"

Well, what will happen when Google Play Music (or Spotify or Apple Music's subscription store or...) inevitably announces a shutdown in 3 months? Spotify's been running strong for like 13 years, GPM is about to turn 10, etc. None of those people have been bitten yet, and there's literally hundreds of millions of them.

Google Play Music IS shutting down. Anyday now ... probably in a year max.

They say they won't until YouTube music has feature parity but I don't believe it.

I may sound bitter ...

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by wdr1 »

dylan-m wrote: post #293
iamsb wrote: post #88

A good model will be to start working on a new startup with a competing product as soon as google launches something. In couple of years when they shut down, provide migration paths. Swim in $$$.

This is, to some extent, what Feedly did. They started off as a really nice, somewhat niche magazine-style news reader built on Google Reader. When Google Reader shut down, it was in their best interest to implement the API themselves. They had the very clever idea to make that a _public_ API, just like Google Reader, so in the end all kinds of apps and services wanted to use it, and it seems they're doing really wel…

Is Feedly swimming in money?

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by joshuamorton »

conradfr wrote: post #587
joshuamorton wrote: post #491

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Well, what will happen when Google Play Music (or Spotify or Apple Music's subscription store or...) inevitably announces a shutdown in 3 months? Spotify's been running strong for like 13 years, GPM is about to turn 10, etc. None of those people have been bitten yet, and there's literally hundreds of millions of them.

Google Play Music IS shutting down. Anyday now ... probably in a year max. They say they won't until YouTube music has feature parity but I don't believe it. I may sound bitter ...

> Google Play Music IS shutting down

Well, sort of. But relevant to the original question posed: are users of GPM losing their suscribed content? No.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by gamblor956 »

msh wrote: post #533
falcolas wrote: post #521

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> A second point, sometimes i play coop games with my wife. Its nice not needing 2 consoles or gaming pc's. One can play on the TV and the other on a tablet or cheap laptop. Unless you have (particularly good) fiber, this probably won't happen. The bandwidth requirements are too high. > No wasting time downloading/installing games. No patches. Just games ready to play. FWIW, all of the current generation consoles (ev…

I do have gigabit fiber. On my Xbox I often don't get around to pre-ordering games and there is limited disk space so if I want to play a old game I have to wait again.

A bigger harddrive for your xBox would cost less than the Stadia controller.
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