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Fastmail – 20 Years Old

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Re: Fastmail – 20 Years Old

#51

I use Gmail. Don't love it, don't hate it. What's the pitch for switching to Fastmail?

Gmail takes about 30 seconds to load for me, FastMail takes about 4 seconds. The name doesn't lie. (Similarly, rather than loading page by page through big folders, I can near-instantly scroll through 10,000 email folders on the FastMail web UI.) No ads or tracking in FastMail, it's spam protection is (IMHO, YMMV) better than Gmail's with an extremely low false positive rate. And I get customer support from real live…

Right, just in a few minutes of playing around with FM, I can see it is true to its name - it's fast! How does one go about transitioning from gmail to FM when you have a lot of stuff going to gmail?

Re: Fastmail – 20 Years Old

#52

I've been using Fastmail for a little while (I'm still migrating from Gmail), and I love their service. I've talked to support before and asked questions that got replies from a real person, which was refreshing coming out of Google's ecosystem. Their web UI is fast. Their support for custom domains is great, I can be receiving emails from a new domain in minutes. One of their most underrated features is aliases. You…

No no, you don't need aliases for that. You can set up a catch-all at something like service@spam.yourdomain.com and have as many of those as you like, no 500 limit.

You're missing two important points.

First (and most importantly), Fastmail aliases don't need to be linked to my domain. If the goal of this is to not have my identity/addresses tracked across services, it is important that I not have a single, unique identifier shared between those emails.

If I sign up for Walmart with `walmart@danshumway.com`, I haven't gained any privacy. If I sign up with `walmart@fastmail.com`, I've gained a great deal of privacy.

Second, another use for Fastmail aliases is filtering -- the fact that they're not catch-alls. If I use a catch-all, an abuser can still fill up my email box by sending to unfiltered catch-all addresses. However, most emails you send to `@danshumway.com` will bounce, because I explicitly don't have a catch-all set up.

I could add a bunch of custom filters into Gmail to auto-delete emails that didn't go into a specific address, but I'd basically be re-inventing the wheel for no benefit. With Fastmail, I can easily modify, remove, or add a new alias in less than a minute, and I can have my aliases split between as many custom domains as I want. This is all stuff that Gmail handles very poorly. Even setting up custom domains at all is annoying in Gmail if you're not paying for GSuite.

And of course, Fastmail aliases can also contain catch-alls and wildcard operators, which means you get the best of both worlds. You can set up a wildcard alias for your domain that forwards everything like you describe, and that only counts as one alias.

Re: Fastmail – 20 Years Old

#53

Fastmail is fantastic, no complaints at all.... besides the mobile app. I don't care about the speed or glitches or whatever others may complain about, but I travel way too much to have no offline email access on my phone. So this turns into me having 2 email apps on my phone (Android); one to do stuff in (Fastmail) and another (K-9 which is not great to write/do stuff in) that just sits there, likely hogging battery…

The mobile app is just a native shell around a browser serving up the mobile website -- why can't they have an array of account credentials and allow switching accounts? It's the little things like this that have me annoyed that I'm not just paying cash but also in terms of time and efficiency because of the features Fastmail lacks.

Re: Fastmail – 20 Years Old

#54

I've been using Fastmail for a little while (I'm still migrating from Gmail), and I love their service. I've talked to support before and asked questions that got replies from a real person, which was refreshing coming out of Google's ecosystem. Their web UI is fast. Their support for custom domains is great, I can be receiving emails from a new domain in minutes. One of their most underrated features is aliases. You…

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Re: Fastmail – 20 Years Old

#55

I've been using Fastmail for a little while (I'm still migrating from Gmail), and I love their service. I've talked to support before and asked questions that got replies from a real person, which was refreshing coming out of Google's ecosystem. Their web UI is fast. Their support for custom domains is great, I can be receiving emails from a new domain in minutes. One of their most underrated features is aliases. You…

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Re: Fastmail – 20 Years Old

#56
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Just wondering: why don't you use your phone's native email app and IMAP?

Android 10 (at least on my Pixel 2) doesn't have a native email app (other than Gmail), though of course there are lots of options.

last time i checked, gmail supports generic IMAP accounts as well.

Re: Fastmail – 20 Years Old

#57

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Gmail takes about 30 seconds to load for me, FastMail takes about 4 seconds. The name doesn't lie. (Similarly, rather than loading page by page through big folders, I can near-instantly scroll through 10,000 email folders on the FastMail web UI.) No ads or tracking in FastMail, it's spam protection is (IMHO, YMMV) better than Gmail's with an extremely low false positive rate. And I get customer support from real live…

Right, just in a few minutes of playing around with FM, I can see it is true to its name - it's fast! How does one go about transitioning from gmail to FM when you have a lot of stuff going to gmail?

So, I knew I wanted to use my own email domain going forwards to prevent this problem in the future. I got inbox@firstlastname.com set up, and forwarded it to Gmail. Then for about a year and a half, anytime I looked at account settings anywhere I'd change it from my Gmail address to my own address. (But it all still ended up in the same inbox.)

When I decided to switch to FastMail in 2016, I repointed that address at FastMail and the vast majority of stuff moved with me... instantly. FastMail also has tools to import your mail archive using IMAP for what's already in your Gmail account.

Now that all of my mail uses my own domain name, if I ever needed to leave FastMail, it'd be painless... none of my mail is going to a FastMail address to begin with.

My strong recommendation is that people do this even if they intend to stick with Gmail for the time being, just to give themselves the future option.

Re: Fastmail – 20 Years Old

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The native iOS mail app is push notification enabled from FastMail; there’s no reason to not just use it.

You have to use the FastMail app if you want to send from an email alias. That's the only reason I have for not using the native iOS mail app. Please let me know if you have a workaround!

You should just be able to add the other aliases in the settings for that account. I haven't personally used it but the option is there.

Re: Fastmail – 20 Years Old

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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android 10 (at least on my Pixel 2) doesn't have a native email app (other than Gmail), though of course there are lots of options.

last time i checked, gmail supports generic IMAP accounts as well.

But then you're using gmail.

Re: Fastmail – 20 Years Old

#60
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Which primary competitors would those be? Asking for a friend...

ProtonMail is the most promising.

I've been using ProtonMail and ProtonVPN for over a year, paid subscription. Both web and mobile client is ok, not great. On desktop I use Outlook (Windows) and Thunderbird (Linux). I like the domain @pm.me.

Overall happy with the service. Customer support has answered questions competently.

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