A good model will be to start working on a new startup with a competing product as soon as google launches something. In couple of years when they shut down, provide migration paths. Swim in $$$.
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When will Google shut down Stadia?
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Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?
#112A good model will be to start working on a new startup with a competing product as soon as google launches something. In couple of years when they shut down, provide migration paths. Swim in $$$.
I wonder about the damage Google does to any potential start ups in a field.
How much buzz can you get when everyone’s first thought is “how could this be any good? Google already tried that and failed...”
Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
I got my first promotion in Google for preventing a half-forgotten system from imploding.
That's actually a bad sign, as it shows how notable it is at Google when something like this is prevented... ️ Preventing Products from failing should be SOP.
But consider incentives. If nobody gets promoted for doing it, nobody does it. Promotion for maintenance isn't a bad sign if your corporate culture is "hire the smartest people in the room and let them build great products;" you're going to have to incentivize maintenance somehow, and "maintain it or you're fired" is counter to your cultural goals.
Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Webster agrees with me, it should be two words, not a single word. That was my point (and is the point of the "notaverb" site).
Language is defined by how people actually use it. If people are generally using and understanding "shutdown" as a verb (which has been true in the computer industry for at least 30 years), then it's a verb regardless of what language prescriptionists say.
In the present participle, it's "shutting down", not "shutdowning". Or, "she shuts down the computer", not "she shutdowns the computer". "shutdown" is a verb as much as "alot" is a word. It's just a common typo.
Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?
#115I appreciate the sentiment here, but this feels incredibly reactive and preliminary. Stadia should have more clearly set launch expectations: there are only a few games worth playing for, most of the cool cloud features aren't there, etc, etc But that doesn't mean all of those things aren't coming? For all intents and purposes, this was a soft launch. Sure Google is going to burn a ton of consumers by launching befor…
That isn't the issue -- it isn't a comment about the quality of Stadia today or even what is possible. It's a comment about Google's propensity to lose interest in products and services and shut them down.
Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?
#116Honestly, as soon as Google announces a new product, my first thought is to wonder how long until it is shut down. Google has completely lost my trust in relying on any of their products. Even when they come out and claim that this product will not be cancelled, for reals this time, pinky promise, etc. I simply can't believe them.
Aside: Costumers, er prospects rather, love my products until the end when they ask, "so... how many people work there?"
As though that would indicate how likely it is that the product will have a long life. They are telling me with that question they want my software for a long time. But when they hear the answer they bail.
I still don't know how to get over that hump.
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#117This makes me shed a solitary tear for Google Reader :'( And another solitary tear from the other eye for Google Inbox :,(
I set up my whole company's communication on Google Wave. RIP
Slack, FWIW, is actually quite a bit like Wave was. I feel like if Google didn't screw the launch up so badly, and iterated on the product, they could have had Slack about 5 years before it actually existed.
Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?
#118The criticism of Google Stadia and the defense of its concept in this thread are correct.
There is a successful future in cloud gaming and nobody denies that. However, it's extremely likely to be delivered by a company with both the technical chops and industry chops, including a deep existing library. Google only has one of those, and they didn't even nail the technical side convincingly.
Look toward Microsoft or Sony instead; all the pieces are there for them to waltz in and drink Stadia's milkshake. And we know they're working on it. It's Disney+ all over again.
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#119Hah, excellent joke/insight! If this goes viral it might become a self-fulfilling prophecy - people realizing Google likes to kill their services will say "Stay away from Stadia, it'll hurt if you get into it and they kill it".
Joking aside, this self-fulfilling prophecy issue is turning into a serious problem for Google that needs attention from the C-suite. Killing a product is no longer isolated to that product alone but is reflecting badly on the entire company and kneecapping completely unrelated teams. It's especially bad in the cloud: there are tons of enterprises that won't even look at GCP because of Google's flighty reputation.
The question I assme they ask themselves is "If we no longer let small teams build and release interesting products, what do we miss out on?" The answer probably has a lot to do with employee motivation and retention as well.
Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?
#120Sorry, but pet peeve. Shutdown is not a verb. (should be "shut down") http://notaverb.com/shutdown
This does not cause ambiguity to anyone. Its a distinction in search of a non-existent problem. The dictionary will change to follow our usage on this one, and we will lose nothing. Compound words become closed all the time.