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Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by xpe » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:56 PM UTC

zionic wrote: post #91

jdavis703 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My dad's side of the family is in Georgia. You couldn't pay me $300k to deal with the racism in rural Georgia. Yes not all people out there are bad, but there's enough I'd rather line elsewhere.

Are sweeping generalizations of almost 11 million people the kind of comment we want to encourage on HN?

The commenter did not say all in Georgia are racist; he said ‘enough’ are to concern him.

Discussing cultural factors and our perceptions of them are fair game, especially in this thread, because they affect the relocation thought process.

I invite people to weigh in on the degree of racism across regions and states. I would like to see if there are ways to get more specific with data, though I don’t demand it. There are many aspects of society that are not easy to measure. That lack of data does not mean we should not talk about our experiences and perceptions.

Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by TheGallopedHigh » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:56 PM UTC

izietto wrote: post #83

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For anyone like me who hasn't seen the VHCOL acronym before: Very High Cost Of Living.

And what is FANG? and why are acronyms so overused in an UCC (unlimited characters context)?

Facebook Amazon Netflix Google (normally another a as in FAANG, but I forgot what that is)

Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by marcinzm » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:57 PM UTC

kfk wrote: post #79

RomanPushkin wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Some of these towns sell houses for few thousands Name of the place or it didn't happen :)

Here you go: https://casea1euro.it/case-a-1-euro-in-sardegna-a-15-minuti-... You buy the house for 1 euro but then you have to fix it. So I guess you have to invest few thousands.

I don’t know about Italy but in the US fixing up an old house in bad condition can be extremely expensive and time consuming. Cheaper to buy empty land and build a new one.

Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by icebraining » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:57 PM UTC

clarry wrote: post #63

tempsy wrote: post #40

It's really hard to beat living and working in San Francisco. Having lived here a few years I find costs highly overstated for single people . e.g. some costs: Studio in Lower Haight (water + trash included): $2100/month Utilities: $50 Monthly Muni: $81 Groceries are no more expensive than anywhere else. Eating out is similar vs other cities I've been to, and if anything the quality of the food is better here at the…

I don't understand the logic by which people say that in smaller towns, you need a car. For me the exact opposite has been true: the larger the city, the more likely I am to need a car. In small cities everything is in walking distance, that's what small means. Big means things are far. Also, based on all the complaining about public traffic and congestion and whatnot, the larger the city, the more likely you are to…

Larger cities tend to be denser, which means that while, yes, there are things farther than in a small city, there are also more things accessible at the same distance.

Plus, that density makes it economical to support other alternatives besides car ownership or walking, like public transportation and delivery services. I once carried a foam mattress for 12km on the Brussels subway. In any small town I lived in, that would have required a car, even if the shop was half the distance away.

And small towns are more likely to be missing something entirely, which means you have to travel to another town, possibly much farther than crossing a big city.

Currently I live in a medium-sized city, 10m by train from a big one, and I find it to be a sweet spot :)

Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by BoorishBears » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:57 PM UTC

beauzero wrote: post #41

Atlanta for $ to cost of living/quality. Rural Alabama like Sylacauga (metro/eletric company fiber to your home) for "work from home". Both my wife and I work from home in rural Georgia (Carrollton)...$300k bought us 25 acres, a refurbished 2500 square feet farm house, 6 stall horse barn, 1/2 acre pond, and shop with concrete floor and electricity. There are options out there, lots of them.

My first thought about Rural Alabama is how much I'd hate that sociopolitical environment (I'm black)

Granted I googled Sylacauga and the first line on their website is

>Sylacauga (syl-a-cau-ga) is a progressive community where all the pieces fit.

So they're aware of the image which is a pretty good sign...

But I'm not doing these cities/towns that are "progressive" oases in vast deserts of backwards communities ever again.

At the end of the day, the people in backwards communities are still numerous. They still end up dominating state-level politics.

Instead of embracing change and the wealth that not being a backwards backwater can bring, they actively fight it and if anything become more emboldened in trying to band together against the "common enemy"... that is progressive people (read: non-white, non-straight and/or non-Christian).

In a more ideal world, the answer to these people would be exactly what Sylacauga seems to be, forcing them to co-exist with people who are in the 21st century, but I now feel like the answer is to let these areas wear themselves down. When the pie of wealth grows and these people are locked out for their views, they'll eventually lose the power they had.

Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by dmode » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:58 PM UTC

Let’s be honest, $10k is chump change for engineers pulling $400k. If you want people to move, how about offer $400k ?

Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by spumoni » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:58 PM UTC

zionic wrote: post #91

jdavis703 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My dad's side of the family is in Georgia. You couldn't pay me $300k to deal with the racism in rural Georgia. Yes not all people out there are bad, but there's enough I'd rather line elsewhere.

Are sweeping generalizations of almost 11 million people the kind of comment we want to encourage on HN?

every day I look at it, this site has become increasingly anti-White. we need to speak up more about this.

Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by TheGallopedHigh » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:58 PM UTC

izietto wrote: post #83

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For anyone like me who hasn't seen the VHCOL acronym before: Very High Cost Of Living.

And what is FANG? and why are acronyms so overused in an UCC (unlimited characters context)?

Last A is Apple

Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by Mountain_Skies » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:58 PM UTC

asdfman123 wrote: post #37

kfk wrote: post #16

The idea is sound. There are a lot of amazing places in Italy where I am from. Some of these towns sell houses for few thousands. Just think about it. No traffic. No over-crowded restaurants. Your own property. Sun. Sea side. I think this is more an issue of community. Of course if you are the only remote worker in a place with aging population is not fun. But if some start up would be able to build a community of re…

Another option is you can just find a job in Dallas or Atlanta or something. There's enough programming jobs in cities like that, the COL is relatively low, you can live in pretty much any part of town that suits your fancy, and they're probably much nicer to live in than you might imagine if you've never left the coasts. Personally if I were looking to move anywhere after leaving the bay I'd consider Raleigh or Nash…

While not yet at coastal levels, the cost of living in the City of Atlanta has shot up in recent years, mostly due to increasing real estate prices. Some, but certainly not all, of the suburbs are getting expensive at a even faster rate than the city. The reputation for low cost of living is deserved but not as much as it used to be and probably will continue to change. If you don't need to commute into one of the business districts each day, there are good bargains to be found especially if you don't have school age children.

Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by toomuchtodo » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:58 PM UTC

chasd00 wrote: post #93

ramraj07 wrote: post #69

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How far out of Dallas do you need to get 25 acres for 300k?

well, ok not exactly. I'm not getting 25 acres for 300k but am getting 10 with horse barn/stables, a large "shop", a house+pool the wife loves and a MIL suite for about 650k and 30min Southeast of downtown. It's not a done deal but my mother-in-law will be moving in with me/wife+2kids so we're taking it seriously and will be making an offer soon.

Congrats on the estate!