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Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by chasd00 »

beauzero wrote: post #41

Atlanta for $ to cost of living/quality. Rural Alabama like Sylacauga (metro/eletric company fiber to your home) for "work from home". Both my wife and I work from home in rural Georgia (Carrollton)...$300k bought us 25 acres, a refurbished 2500 square feet farm house, 6 stall horse barn, 1/2 acre pond, and shop with concrete floor and electricity. There are options out there, lots of them.

wow that almost exactly describes where i'm headed to next but outside of Dallas. My plan is to lease the stables since I have no livestock and don't desire any. Most of my family are West Texas ranchers and oil hands, i'm the lone computer nerd. I have no desire to work as hard as the ranchers in my family do.

Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by [deleted] »

rogy wrote: post #46
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is standing in life for brunch really the 3rd biggest problem with living in the Bay Area It's not a problem. More another manufactured nuisance of the kind San Francisco seems to enjoy creating. New Yorkers have brunch later, brunch boozier and--broadly speaking--brunch with a reservation. San Franciscans (or at least my friends in San Francisco) eat brunch at the crack of dawn at establishments that prefer lines…

File London under this too, the majority of 'upper mid range' or 'cool' places to eat now are, turn up, sign up to waiting list, come back in 30mins-2hr

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Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by namdnay »

asdfman123 wrote: post #37
kfk wrote: post #16

The idea is sound. There are a lot of amazing places in Italy where I am from. Some of these towns sell houses for few thousands. Just think about it. No traffic. No over-crowded restaurants. Your own property. Sun. Sea side. I think this is more an issue of community. Of course if you are the only remote worker in a place with aging population is not fun. But if some start up would be able to build a community of re…

Another option is you can just find a job in Dallas or Atlanta or something. There's enough programming jobs in cities like that, the COL is relatively low, you can live in pretty much any part of town that suits your fancy, and they're probably much nicer to live in than you might imagine if you've never left the coasts. Personally if I were looking to move anywhere after leaving the bay I'd consider Raleigh or Nash…

I think it depends on each person. I briefly lived in Dallas, it's just way too ... flat? No sea, no mountains, no thanks :)

Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by mdszy »

tempsy wrote: post #40

It's really hard to beat living and working in San Francisco. Having lived here a few years I find costs highly overstated for single people . e.g. some costs: Studio in Lower Haight (water + trash included): $2100/month Utilities: $50 Monthly Muni: $81 Groceries are no more expensive than anywhere else. Eating out is similar vs other cities I've been to, and if anything the quality of the food is better here at the…

I live in a medium sized city in Wisconsin (~100k population) and my costs are:

- $850 for rent for a 2 bedroom 1200sqft apartment

- ~$70 for utilities (i have free heat so it's less in the winter and more in the summer)

and if i still had the car i previously had, my only expense would be gas (~$100/mo) and the minor maintenance it needed, which was less than $1000/yr (i tracked everything each year i had it). I bought a newer car recently and am financing it. I pay $350/mo on it and gas is closer to $200/mo for it but that's still well within the over $1000 difference in living costs.

I think you vastly understate just how insane $2100/mo for rent is, and overstate how much it costs to own a car. If $1k a month in savings isn't enough to own/maintain a car and that's a problem for you, you need a car that doesn't cost over $1k a month to own.

Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by samstave »

robbyt wrote: post #39
i_am_nomad wrote: post #7

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It honestly seems like a Brooklynite's take on urban woes, without understanding that brunch isn't nearly as big a deal in the Bay Area as it is there.

It's not a problem here.

Seriously.

Name the last time you went to brunch. Now name the last time you were so upset at a brunch line that it inspired you to bitch about it online, let alone make it a part of your job-sites pitch...

Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by dublinben »

helen___keller wrote: post #38
deadbunny wrote: post #25

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Houses are terrible for the climate?

sprawling suburbs that necessitate driving everywhere are terrible for the climate Houses themselves aren't great for the climate (there's CO2 emission in materials productions, heavy machinery operation, etc), but they're necessary for human survival so it's hard to claim we have an alternative

>it's hard to claim we have an alternative

The alternative is apartments, which use roughly half as much energy as single-family houses.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=11731

Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by Mountain_Skies »

akhilcacharya wrote: post #22
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is standing in life for brunch really the 3rd biggest problem with living in the Bay Area It's not a problem. More another manufactured nuisance of the kind San Francisco seems to enjoy creating. New Yorkers have brunch later, brunch boozier and--broadly speaking--brunch with a reservation. San Franciscans (or at least my friends in San Francisco) eat brunch at the crack of dawn at establishments that prefer lines…

I'm a software engineer at a FANG, in a VHCOL city...and I feel completely out of touch with whatever cultural circles these people live in. > We are three former Googlers who are on a mission to help create jobs in rural and suburban cities around America. Ok, yeah, that explains it

For anyone like me who hasn't seen the VHCOL acronym before: Very High Cost Of Living.

Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by asdfman123 »

namdnay wrote: post #53
asdfman123 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another option is you can just find a job in Dallas or Atlanta or something. There's enough programming jobs in cities like that, the COL is relatively low, you can live in pretty much any part of town that suits your fancy, and they're probably much nicer to live in than you might imagine if you've never left the coasts. Personally if I were looking to move anywhere after leaving the bay I'd consider Raleigh or Nash…

I think it depends on each person. I briefly lived in Dallas, it's just way too ... flat? No sea, no mountains, no thanks :)

That's a good point, which is actually why I listed Nashville and Raleigh. Actually, Boulder would be pretty damn cool but without checking, I think it's essentially a high COL place by now.

Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by icebraining »

mjlee wrote: post #4

From the contact details: 105 North 1st Street #28, San Jose, CA 95113 I'm certainly not an expert, but Wikipedia claims that's in the Bay Area... Are they paying their own team to quit?

I think it's a post office box: https://www.yelp.com/biz/us-post-office-san-jose-35

Re: MainStreet – $10k to Leave Bay Area

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

Reason077 wrote: post #42
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is standing in life for brunch really the 3rd biggest problem with living in the Bay Area It's not a problem. More another manufactured nuisance of the kind San Francisco seems to enjoy creating. New Yorkers have brunch later, brunch boozier and--broadly speaking--brunch with a reservation. San Franciscans (or at least my friends in San Francisco) eat brunch at the crack of dawn at establishments that prefer lines…

Having a line out the door also serves as a sort of free advertising for the restaurant. If people are willing to line up and wait for their brunch, it must be good, right?

> If people are willing to line up and wait for their brunch, it must be good, right?

That, itself, tells you about the local culture.

A culture that responds positively to a line out of the door puts a lot of value on trendiness. This is (much of) San Francisco. (It's not true across the Bay Area.)

A culture that responds neutrally or negatively to a line out of the door either responds less aggressively to trend pressure and/or has fewer supply-side restrictions. This is New York. A line out of the door in New York tells me it's a new place that's still getting its act together, there's an event there that night, they're filming or it's a shitshow.

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