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Apple’s iPhone Software Shakeup After Buggy iOS 13 Debut

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Re: Apple’s iPhone Software Shakeup After Buggy iOS 13 Debut

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Post by pushpop »

TheRealWatson wrote: post #33
hylaride wrote: post #17

There have been glaring bugs/issues lasting ages in both MacOS and iOS. For years apple mail on iOS would always show 1 unread message in "all mail" for gmail. On my iPhone 11 pro (and the 6S i had before it) the camera app will sometimes only show a black screen and a freaking reboot is needed to get it working again. I've missed out on many moments with my toddler because of that. Multi-monitor support was so good…

> I've missed out on many moments with my toddler because of that You just missed taking pictures. You were still there to live them :)

So true. My parents didn’t miss out not having a camera phone and neither did my grandparents. It’s amazing how dependant we’ve become on capturing moments. Sometimes even to the detriment of actually experiencing them.

Re: Apple’s iPhone Software Shakeup After Buggy iOS 13 Debut

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Post by travisgriggs »

Does anyone have more detailed information as to why the degradation?

Has the balance of push push push for features just passed a tipping point of what developers could mostly keep up with?

Is it a process thing (eg the review process changed or testing practices changed)?

Or a developer skill level thing? Are seasoned coders being replaced by less seasoned ones?

Or is there a finger to be pointed at some piece of technology (for example, I've been pretty pro on swift for the last couple years, but recently have become aware of what a nightmare the marriage of closures and ARC are and how easy it is to make mistakes around them)?

Re: Apple’s iPhone Software Shakeup After Buggy iOS 13 Debut

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Post by 333c »

CoolGuySteve wrote: post #6

The same thing happened when we were working on Leopard under Bertrand. Because the developer toolchain switched to Objective C 2.0 with garbage collection enabled, the OS was unusable for development for months at a time. Development took twice as long as planned, the release was fairly bloated, and required 2 or 3 updates in the first month or two. When Craig took over he introduced a sprint model so that there wer…

I haven't seen that video before. Thank you for sharing it. The term "sprint" has always confused me a little bit.

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Post by jamil7 »

Razengan wrote: post #30

I'm one of the most staunch Apple supporters but even I must admit that since WWDC 2019, I have spent more time fighting Apple's bugs than actually using any of the new features...or the old features that used to work flawlessly (like iTunes/Music.) Not just on the user side, but the developer end as well. Perfectly valid code which used to work up till Xcode 11.1 throws errors inside the Swift runtime or toolchain o…

About 10 minutes ago I had XCode 11.2 crash from a line of swift code I wrote without compiling. I had to go into vim and delete the line because XCode would crash each time I tried to reopen. I hope it all gets smoothed out since there are some nice new tools worth looking into. But the constant bugs and crashes make it hard for me to get excited.

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Post by nradov »

saagarjha wrote: post #29
nradov wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So they're just now discovering feature flags? I would have assumed that any team working on a large code base has been using those for years. The concept has been around since forever.

It depends on what you consider "feature flags" to be. Apple already uses macros quite heavily to selectively include code and new features in certain builds. Presumably the new flags allow for enabling features at runtime or to certain groups, which is something that they don't seem to have done much in the past.

Feature flags can be selectively enabled at run time. Source code macros wouldn't generally be considered as feature flags.

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Post by faitswulff »

bluedino wrote: post #46

13 was the worst iOS release I can remember. Photos would crash from scrolling too fast. Mail wouldn't check for new messages for a whole day. Safari blank screens. Replying to messages in Mail was a 50/50 proposition. The phone would freeze for 5-10 seconds more than it ever did before. All kinds of visual artifacts like text appearing where it shouldn't, UI elements getting orphaned and just floating around, effect…

I'm still holding off on updating my iPad, even though I really want to use sidecar. Has iOS 13 stabilized now?

Re: Apple’s iPhone Software Shakeup After Buggy iOS 13 Debut

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Post by vfronly »

hylaride wrote: post #17

There have been glaring bugs/issues lasting ages in both MacOS and iOS. For years apple mail on iOS would always show 1 unread message in "all mail" for gmail. On my iPhone 11 pro (and the 6S i had before it) the camera app will sometimes only show a black screen and a freaking reboot is needed to get it working again. I've missed out on many moments with my toddler because of that. Multi-monitor support was so good…

> the camera app will sometimes only show a black screen

I'm in the exact same position as you (now 11 Pro, previous 6S) and what I find is that apps that use the camera cause this. Snapchat is the main culprit for me. If that happens again, try closing out of Snapchat/FB/Instagram/anything that uses the camera from the multitasking window. That usually brings my camera back much more quickly than a reboot

Re: Apple’s iPhone Software Shakeup After Buggy iOS 13 Debut

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Post by jamil7 »

faitswulff wrote: post #56
bluedino wrote: post #46

13 was the worst iOS release I can remember. Photos would crash from scrolling too fast. Mail wouldn't check for new messages for a whole day. Safari blank screens. Replying to messages in Mail was a 50/50 proposition. The phone would freeze for 5-10 seconds more than it ever did before. All kinds of visual artifacts like text appearing where it shouldn't, UI elements getting orphaned and just floating around, effect…

I'm still holding off on updating my iPad, even though I really want to use sidecar. Has iOS 13 stabilized now?

iOS 13 and Catalina have been OK for me, XCode on the other hand is a hot mess.

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Post by gman83 »

Razengan wrote: post #30

I'm one of the most staunch Apple supporters but even I must admit that since WWDC 2019, I have spent more time fighting Apple's bugs than actually using any of the new features...or the old features that used to work flawlessly (like iTunes/Music.) Not just on the user side, but the developer end as well. Perfectly valid code which used to work up till Xcode 11.1 throws errors inside the Swift runtime or toolchain o…

I guess you haven't had Joy-Con drift :)

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Post by mercutio2 »

mschuster91 wrote: post #37
hylaride wrote: post #17

There have been glaring bugs/issues lasting ages in both MacOS and iOS. For years apple mail on iOS would always show 1 unread message in "all mail" for gmail. On my iPhone 11 pro (and the 6S i had before it) the camera app will sometimes only show a black screen and a freaking reboot is needed to get it working again. I've missed out on many moments with my toddler because of that. Multi-monitor support was so good…

> Time machine's performance has slowly gotten worse and worse, leaving me having to cancel backups just so I can go home. I'm administrating TimeMachine for my employer. It sucks so incredibly hard on a lot of points: 1) it requires the aged AFP protocol instead of Samba 2) No user-/machine-defineable quota, only one across the whole server 3) Extremely poor behavior in higher-than-10ms-latency scenarios 4) no way o…

Time Machine (and macOS in general) isn’t really intended for large office setups, it’s a personal backup system.

Time machine hasn’t required AFP for years. SMB is in fact the preferred protocol.

The SMB server does require a few extensions not all servers have adopted, so perhaps that’s what you’re referring to?

https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/releasenotes/Net...

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