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Neural correlates of the DMT experience assessed with multivariate EEG

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Re: Neural correlates of the DMT experience assessed with multivariate EEG

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Post by narag »

collyw wrote: post #170
cwkoss wrote: post #20

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As I heard it, Ayahuasca traditionally refers to the MAOI portion specifically. The MAOI will increase the activity of nearly any psychotropic drug and has some minor effects on it own, so it makes sense that the MAOI came first, and then adding other things things to it followed. Fun fact: the ayahuasca alkaloids glow brightly under black light. I've never done ayahuasca, but I tried making some fluorescent body pai…

>the ayahuasca alkaloids glow brightly under black light. Black light?

Black light:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacklight

We had one of those at home when I was a child, it was a lot of fun.

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Post by narag »

19793378 wrote: post #130
cronix wrote: post #15

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This lecture from Dr. Peterson was pretty fascinating and succinct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gol5sPM073k

Don't listen to Jordan Peterson, listen to Terence McKenna: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcRGY2Bdk0U

¿Por qué no a los dos?

Re: Neural correlates of the DMT experience assessed with multivariate EEG

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Post by cypherpunks01 »

dana321 wrote: post #50

I've had my own dreams while awake, the key is to stay aware while you are going to sleep.. Everyone knows the state between sleeping and awake, its great. But to go to sleep while still conscious, is like advanced meditation. I've had similar experiences during meditation. The world around you merges into a dream-like state, but it all seems to feel more real than the world we usually experience while awake. Dreams…

Great book by Jennifer Dumpert about how to do this! She coins the technique "Liminal Dreaming" http://liminaldreaming.com

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Post by allworknoplay »

vokep wrote: post #82
EL_Loco wrote: post #69

I'm brazilian, and lived a big part of my life in a city where there were two religious groups who did ayahuasca. In my 20's, I had quite a lot of friends who tried it, with some doing it quite frequently and a few even joining the groups as full members. The experience I had with knowing them before and after ayahuasca not too different than with other drugs/hallucinogens: my friends related life-changing events, co…

https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/04/21/universal-love-said-th... >“Now you see here,” I said. “Everyone in this conversation is in favor of universal love and transcendent joy. But I’ve seen the way this works. Some college student gets his hands on some DMT, visits here, you guys tell him about universal love and transcendent joy, he wakes up, says that his life has been changed, suddenly he truly understands what re…

This is so good! Thanks for sharing :)

Now if you could only tell me how to drive to the exit so I can get out of the car...

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Post by birdyrooster »

AnthonBerg wrote: post #165
birdyrooster wrote: post #151

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It shouldn’t take paragraphs to say that amphetamine salts feel good and make you masturbate for long periods of time. What egoless person spends this much time talking about themselves to strangers? It seems logically contradictory. Good luck and maybe consider seeing a therapist and show them these posts.

Conversely, three lines is quite enough to misunderstand things on purpose and put people down for little reason. Good luck and maybe consider seeing a therapist and show them these posts.

I am sorry for writing that so condescendingly but it was not an intentional misread. I also see nothing wrong with talking with our therapists. Maybe that is shameful for some but it’s totally cool. Sometimes to be good to each other we have to be honest in ways which are not comfortable.

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Post by moretai »

I know there's a stigma to being anti-psychedelia. But how are we so certain that we aren't causing irreversible harm to these people psyches? The phenomena these people are having can be equated with full blown religious experiences at least according to the anecdotal of what they experience. Whether they be pure ecstasy or rummaging through the depths of hell.

But we all have our own internal language which really express what we experienced. What we express to others is not the truth of the experience. I understand people can function in society. It's not difficult to function in society to at least pass by unnoticed. Even in the face of ultimate authority, we will not express the complete truth. Unless these authorities are aware of some way of seeing it all, how do we know these people aren't affected by this in a serious way? I just don't know how people can go through these experiences and not be affected.

Thinking they are gods while under the influence, seeing the true nature of it all, and yet go back into traffic the next day. How can these two things coexist.

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Post by moretai »

ThJ wrote: post #56
phaedrus wrote: post #43

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Interesting! When you say executive functions, could ADHD be linked in a way to this? When I "zone out" it feels like REM dreaming while awake.

Oh, um, that’s interesting. I have found I can make myself dream while awake in a way... I use relaxation techniques on myself all day and it’s actually a bit frightening what you can make your own brain do... What happened to me is I became more openminded, more fluent in my writing, more daring in my choices, and actually also more socially aware... I can only compare it to eating the forbidden fruit of the garden…

How do you relax? I've been told always to relax more. But I can't relax at all. My mind is going. I try to find my breath, but I always find that I become in control of the breath. I tried to wet my nostrils to feel the air come through, but when I am consciously waiting for the breath, it is only I who can cause the breath. I don't even know if I breathe when I am unaware of it. I am always just doing. But I see other people's bellies go up and down, so they must be breathing right? Basically, how did you learn to relax to that state?

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Post by moretai »

teh_infallible wrote: post #58
LinuxBender wrote: post #36

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Is it true that multiple people tripping on it at the same time, in different rooms, see the same things, events and even people in their trip? I've never tried any psychedelics, but if there were any truth to what I have heard, it would be a fascinating topic to study while monitoring brainwave activity.

Yes. This absolutely happens. What was strange for me was looking at clouds while tripping and pointing out all the things I saw in the clouds. My companion saw all the same things. There’s no way a sober person would have seen any of it.

Couldn't they just be following the leader, aka your thought?

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Post by ta1234567890 »

ThJ wrote: post #56
phaedrus wrote: post #43

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Interesting! When you say executive functions, could ADHD be linked in a way to this? When I "zone out" it feels like REM dreaming while awake.

Oh, um, that’s interesting. I have found I can make myself dream while awake in a way... I use relaxation techniques on myself all day and it’s actually a bit frightening what you can make your own brain do... What happened to me is I became more openminded, more fluent in my writing, more daring in my choices, and actually also more socially aware... I can only compare it to eating the forbidden fruit of the garden…

Sounds like you might have shut down (or have exceptional control of) your default mode network. Watch this video for an explanation: https://youtu.be/QeNmydIk8Yo

Would also recommend you check out Gary Weber's other videos and book, it might help you better understand what you have been experiencing.

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Post by collyw »

narag wrote: post #171
collyw wrote: post #170

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>the ayahuasca alkaloids glow brightly under black light. Black light?

Black light: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacklight We had one of those at home when I was a child, it was a lot of fun.

Ok, I would have called that a UV light. Never heard them referred to like that before.
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