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Apple’s iPhone Software Shakeup After Buggy iOS 13 Debut

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Re: Apple’s iPhone Software Shakeup After Buggy iOS 13 Debut

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Post by dylan604 »

louwrentius wrote: post #4

Maybe it's easy to say but it feels more like a cultural problem than a technical/procedural one. Why the fuck did they let this happen in the first place? Where is this mentality that even the backside of a cabinet should be build well?

>Where is this mentality that even the backside of a cabinet should be build well?

Pride in quality of work? Why does the backside have to be be NOT built well? I hate crappy pressed wood furniture, but the same piece of furniture built by real craftsman using real materials raises the price from ~$250 to over $1200. Admittedly, apples and oranges, but the point is valid.

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Post by cmg »

louwrentius wrote: post #4

Maybe it's easy to say but it feels more like a cultural problem than a technical/procedural one. Why the fuck did they let this happen in the first place? Where is this mentality that even the backside of a cabinet should be build well?

> Why the fuck did they let this happen in the first place?

Blame the annual expected release of a new iPhone that Apple trained us on and that markets and consumers now expect. For those phones to be ready to ship on the date that Apple promises, they have to be produced and boxed up. The phones require a new version of iOS for hardware support (which makes sense) meaning there's a certain time before the phone release date that a GM of the newest version of iOS has to be released to manufacturing.

Re: Apple’s iPhone Software Shakeup After Buggy iOS 13 Debut

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Post by TheRealWatson »

hylaride wrote: post #17

There have been glaring bugs/issues lasting ages in both MacOS and iOS. For years apple mail on iOS would always show 1 unread message in "all mail" for gmail. On my iPhone 11 pro (and the 6S i had before it) the camera app will sometimes only show a black screen and a freaking reboot is needed to get it working again. I've missed out on many moments with my toddler because of that. Multi-monitor support was so good…

> I've missed out on many moments with my toddler because of that

You just missed taking pictures. You were still there to live them :)

Re: Apple’s iPhone Software Shakeup After Buggy iOS 13 Debut

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Post by saagarjha »

dylan604 wrote: post #31
louwrentius wrote: post #4

Maybe it's easy to say but it feels more like a cultural problem than a technical/procedural one. Why the fuck did they let this happen in the first place? Where is this mentality that even the backside of a cabinet should be build well?

>Where is this mentality that even the backside of a cabinet should be build well? Pride in quality of work? Why does the backside have to be be NOT built well? I hate crappy pressed wood furniture, but the same piece of furniture built by real craftsman using real materials raises the price from ~$250 to over $1200. Admittedly, apples and oranges, but the point is valid.

I think it's possible to interpret the comment as asking "where has the mentality gone" rather than "where is this mentality coming from".

Re: Apple’s iPhone Software Shakeup After Buggy iOS 13 Debut

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Post by machello13 »

Razengan wrote: post #30

I'm one of the most staunch Apple supporters but even I must admit that since WWDC 2019, I have spent more time fighting Apple's bugs than actually using any of the new features...or the old features that used to work flawlessly (like iTunes/Music.) Not just on the user side, but the developer end as well. Perfectly valid code which used to work up till Xcode 11.1 throws errors inside the Swift runtime or toolchain o…

> Perfectly valid code that used to work up till Xcode 11.1 throws errors in the Swift runtime on Xcode 11.2 (and 11.2.1)

Can you link to some examples? I write Swift full time and haven't noticed anything like this.

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Post by mffnbs »

hylaride wrote: post #17

There have been glaring bugs/issues lasting ages in both MacOS and iOS. For years apple mail on iOS would always show 1 unread message in "all mail" for gmail. On my iPhone 11 pro (and the 6S i had before it) the camera app will sometimes only show a black screen and a freaking reboot is needed to get it working again. I've missed out on many moments with my toddler because of that. Multi-monitor support was so good…

I’m a newer Mac user and was impressed with the multi monitor support and how, as you say, apps are “pinned” to specific areas and the os remembers when you plug in the other monitors. I’ve not noticed an issue with this yet, though, and I’ve been on Mojave and Catalina for my whole Mac career.

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Post by mschuster91 »

hylaride wrote: post #17

There have been glaring bugs/issues lasting ages in both MacOS and iOS. For years apple mail on iOS would always show 1 unread message in "all mail" for gmail. On my iPhone 11 pro (and the 6S i had before it) the camera app will sometimes only show a black screen and a freaking reboot is needed to get it working again. I've missed out on many moments with my toddler because of that. Multi-monitor support was so good…

> Time machine's performance has slowly gotten worse and worse, leaving me having to cancel backups just so I can go home.

I'm administrating TimeMachine for my employer. It sucks so incredibly hard on a lot of points:

1) it requires the aged AFP protocol instead of Samba

2) No user-/machine-defineable quota, only one across the whole server

3) Extremely poor behavior in higher-than-10ms-latency scenarios

4) no way of scripting the configuration if one wants encryption of the backup image

5) Audits/reporting? Forget about it.

6) All backup images end up in one directory on the server, no way to specify e.g. the user's home directory

7) Restore takes ages

Re: Apple’s iPhone Software Shakeup After Buggy iOS 13 Debut

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Post by chooseaname »

hylaride wrote: post #17

There have been glaring bugs/issues lasting ages in both MacOS and iOS. For years apple mail on iOS would always show 1 unread message in "all mail" for gmail. On my iPhone 11 pro (and the 6S i had before it) the camera app will sometimes only show a black screen and a freaking reboot is needed to get it working again. I've missed out on many moments with my toddler because of that. Multi-monitor support was so good…

> I could go on. The worst part? These have all been ignored open issues that other people have submitted and for years they just sit there...open.

When you hire expensive developers, they don't want to work on years old bugs. They only want to work on new features.

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