Live data from Hacker News

SpaceX's Starship Mk1 just blew off its bulkhead in a pressurization accident

twitter.com

171–180 of 265 posts

Re: SpaceX's Starship Mk1 just blew off its bulkhead in a pressurization accident

#172

I read this was a manufacturing pathfinder. Manufacturing and assembly of high strength hardened steel is near black art. Pathfinders do exactly what they say, they lead you through unknown territory to the outcome of the manufacturing journey you embarked on. Often things go boom, you find out why, add it to your corpus of black art knowledge, and keep pathfinding until you run out of budget / succeed / change missi…

I must admit that Elon has done some fairly impressive things, and I respect his hustle and innovation.

With that said, the cult that surrounds his projects where people say things like "this is what success looks like" when a big metal thing blows up unexpectedly or robot car goes flying off an exit ramp is a never ending source of amusement.

Re: SpaceX's Starship Mk1 just blew off its bulkhead in a pressurization accident

#175
post #172

I read this was a manufacturing pathfinder. Manufacturing and assembly of high strength hardened steel is near black art. Pathfinders do exactly what they say, they lead you through unknown territory to the outcome of the manufacturing journey you embarked on. Often things go boom, you find out why, add it to your corpus of black art knowledge, and keep pathfinding until you run out of budget / succeed / change missi…

I must admit that Elon has done some fairly impressive things, and I respect his hustle and innovation. With that said, the cult that surrounds his projects where people say things like "this is what success looks like" when a big metal thing blows up unexpectedly or robot car goes flying off an exit ramp is a never ending source of amusement.

The cult is funny indeed, but do mind that the giant SpaceX booster rockets exploded in giant balls of fire a LOT before they eventually (and reliably) landed like in a sci-fi movie, on land and on a moving boat. SpaceX has earned some benefit of the doubt.

Re: SpaceX's Starship Mk1 just blew off its bulkhead in a pressurization accident

#176
post #172

I read this was a manufacturing pathfinder. Manufacturing and assembly of high strength hardened steel is near black art. Pathfinders do exactly what they say, they lead you through unknown territory to the outcome of the manufacturing journey you embarked on. Often things go boom, you find out why, add it to your corpus of black art knowledge, and keep pathfinding until you run out of budget / succeed / change missi…

I must admit that Elon has done some fairly impressive things, and I respect his hustle and innovation. With that said, the cult that surrounds his projects where people say things like "this is what success looks like" when a big metal thing blows up unexpectedly or robot car goes flying off an exit ramp is a never ending source of amusement.

This is good for bitcoin.

Re: SpaceX's Starship Mk1 just blew off its bulkhead in a pressurization accident

#177

I read this was a manufacturing pathfinder. Manufacturing and assembly of high strength hardened steel is near black art. Pathfinders do exactly what they say, they lead you through unknown territory to the outcome of the manufacturing journey you embarked on. Often things go boom, you find out why, add it to your corpus of black art knowledge, and keep pathfinding until you run out of budget / succeed / change missi…

What does pathfinder mean in the context of manufacturing?

Essentially doing something for the first time, no one has built a steel structure of this size before, that will have to withstand the forces that this will be out through in normal operation.

Re: SpaceX's Starship Mk1 just blew off its bulkhead in a pressurization accident

#178
post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I must admit that Elon has done some fairly impressive things, and I respect his hustle and innovation. With that said, the cult that surrounds his projects where people say things like "this is what success looks like" when a big metal thing blows up unexpectedly or robot car goes flying off an exit ramp is a never ending source of amusement.

This is good for bitcoin.

Huh?

Re: SpaceX's Starship Mk1 just blew off its bulkhead in a pressurization accident

#179
post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> in rockets, safety factor is typically smaller than 2 or the design would be too heavy Safety factors feel like p-values. Why .05? Because. What if it's not good enough? We'll move the goal post.

They are, somewhat. You can theoretically make a safety factor 1.0 if you're really absolutely certain of the input criteria. Safety factor is really just a (somewhat blunt) method of managing risk. It's just admitting that we don't know the true load spectra that a design is exposed to, so we take what we believe is the max load and then slap a multiplier on it to manage how much uncertainty we expect, be it from es…

Safety factors also mitigate stupidity (your bridge is rated for load X, but someone drives 1.1 X through it because they're in a hurry) and cascade failures (a component upstream of yours fails and sends more load down your way).

Re: SpaceX's Starship Mk1 just blew off its bulkhead in a pressurization accident

#180
post #172

I read this was a manufacturing pathfinder. Manufacturing and assembly of high strength hardened steel is near black art. Pathfinders do exactly what they say, they lead you through unknown territory to the outcome of the manufacturing journey you embarked on. Often things go boom, you find out why, add it to your corpus of black art knowledge, and keep pathfinding until you run out of budget / succeed / change missi…

I must admit that Elon has done some fairly impressive things, and I respect his hustle and innovation. With that said, the cult that surrounds his projects where people say things like "this is what success looks like" when a big metal thing blows up unexpectedly or robot car goes flying off an exit ramp is a never ending source of amusement.

Way to misquote GP to confirm your preexisting bias. I think the quote you're looking for is:

"So as manufacturing pathfinder, this is what success often looks like. "

If blowing up a prototype enables changes to the manufacturing process that prevent the same thing happening later with a live crew on board, then it's considered a success. It doesn't matter who the CEO of the company happens to be.

Post reply on HN