How should the rest of the world explain to China that being evil is bad, and they should stop being evil?
China Tortured Me over Hong Kong, Says Former British Consulate Employee
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Re: China Tortured Me over Hong Kong, Says Former British Consulate Employee
#22Nytimes is paywlled, here is Cheng's own account of the events: https://www.facebook.com/notes/cheng-man-kit/for-the-record-... Edit: archive link for the above https://archive.is/LWyz2 (I guess I'm on some kind of list now)
Absolutely horrifying read. I couldn't help but think about Julian Assange going through similar treatment in the UK. Just goes to show: All governments are criminal and terrorist organizations, oppressing and enslaving the people.
Edit: sources for perennate
> Two medical experts accompanied Melzer when he visited Assange at Belmarsh prison in the UK, he said on Tuesday. "We came to the conclusion that he had been exposed to psychological torture for a prolonged period of time. That's a medical assessment." Melzer’s message fell largely on deaf ears, as only a handful of reporters attended Tuesday’s press conference at the UN headquarters in New York.
https://www.rt.com/news/471016-assange-torture-violations-un...
Physically and mentally his condition has gotten pretty bad. He could barely speak in front of the judge recently. Listen to John Pilger who met him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLXzudMCyM4
Re: China Tortured Me over Hong Kong, Says Former British Consulate Employee
#23Nytimes is paywlled, here is Cheng's own account of the events: https://www.facebook.com/notes/cheng-man-kit/for-the-record-... Edit: archive link for the above https://archive.is/LWyz2 (I guess I'm on some kind of list now)
Absolutely horrifying read. I couldn't help but think about Julian Assange going through similar treatment in the UK. Just goes to show: All governments are criminal and terrorist organizations, oppressing and enslaving the people. Edit: sources for perennate > Two medical experts accompanied Melzer when he visited Assange at Belmarsh prison in the UK, he said on Tuesday. "We came to the conclusion that he had been e…
Please provide sources for describing incidents where the UK government physically tortured Julian Assange by forcing him to stay awake, or strapped him to a chair so he couldn't move his limbs, or hung from a crossbar and forced into an eagle pose, etc.
I doubt there are sources though since I'm pretty sure you just made this up.
Re: China Tortured Me over Hong Kong, Says Former British Consulate Employee
#24The best smartphone security doesn't help when you are forced to unlock your phone.
They didn't really need his phone though. They were never actually trying to get information from him, just forcing him to say certain things.
From his FB post, they got him to give information on the org structure of the protest groups he was in.
Re: China Tortured Me over Hong Kong, Says Former British Consulate Employee
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you mean that it's reasonable to assume that the USSR wouldn't have backed China? Or what's the "alternate" part of this history?
> Or what's the "alternate" part of this history? I'm not sure what you are asking. The alternate part is the part where the Soviet Union doesn't collapse a half decade before the handover of HK back to China. Would a Cold War Britain have really handed over HK? What does China look like without the West's influx of money for manufacturing? (Maybe that still happens.) If it leads to war, how does that play out? Is it…
Western investment in China started in the ‘70e and ‘80s, led in part by Hong Kong firms. Negotiations over the Hong Kong handover were started by Margaret Thatcher in the ‘80s. The Sino-British Joint Declaration was signed in 1985. The Basic Law was ratified by 1990.
The Cold War was not over when Hong Kong’s future was being negotiated.
Re: China Tortured Me over Hong Kong, Says Former British Consulate Employee
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Until the "best smartphone security" is two passwords: The second you enter when under duress, and it populates your phone with pro government content based on your current location. Or just wipes your phone. Or permanently locks, encrypts, and sends decryption key to some trusted source.
And then we beat you up for deliberately sabotaging our investigation. If you didn't have anything to hide why would you wipe your phone? Clearly you must be a spy or worse so we have no choice but to send you to the re-education camp.
The action should be indistinguishable from a remote-wipe if possible.
Re: China Tortured Me over Hong Kong, Says Former British Consulate Employee
#27I suggest you to read the first hand report of the tortured Employee of the British Consulate. https://www.facebook.com/notes/cheng-man-kit/for-the-record-... It's far more detailed and interesting than the article, and it clearly exposes the mindset of a 21th century secret police.
Torture, threats, solitary confinement, sleep deprivation, and when he gets home to Taiwan he is followed. The detail he puts into describing how they manipulated forms to start his prison stay to be contributed, to the number of times they took prison photos, makes it a crazy read. It reads like science fiction as an American - I hope he is able to hide out and find a job in a new country.
Re: China Tortured Me over Hong Kong, Says Former British Consulate Employee
#28The best smartphone security doesn't help when you are forced to unlock your phone.
Until the "best smartphone security" is two passwords: The second you enter when under duress, and it populates your phone with pro government content based on your current location. Or just wipes your phone. Or permanently locks, encrypts, and sends decryption key to some trusted source.
I was wondering for a while why such a feature doesnt yet exist.
Re: China Tortured Me over Hong Kong, Says Former British Consulate Employee
#29The problem is that moral outrage like this is used to justify war.
Nothing justifies war. Please remember that. War is innocent people mass murdering other innocent people.
Re: China Tortured Me over Hong Kong, Says Former British Consulate Employee
#30For all those that say "I have nothing to hide" wrt privacy issues, Chinese people thought so too. Now they can't even afford to care about such horrile things because lack of privacy means all dissent will be crushed.