I have a feeling the chances of them making a 16:10 or 3:2 laptop are slim to none.
System76 Will Start Designing and Building Its Own Linux Laptops in January 2020
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#22Will they be sticking with x86? They seem like one of the few companies that could get away with releasing a POWER line.
Why POWER over Arm?
My impression is that POWER is more suitable for desktop computing. Many people would like access to a non-x86 portable device (with, say, 64gb ECC RAM and great I/O.)
I don't know how well the POWER line has progressed since say 2004ish and ARM sure is coming up, but if you intend to use a lot of (fast) I/O and virtualization on your portable workstation laptop it seems to me that POWER would be a great alternative, although surely at a nice price premium over the various ARM ISAs.
ARM on the other hand seems to thrive on the other end of the spectrum--low power consumption and inexpensive. Wouldn't most solutions require that you cram the IO subsystems into the silicon SoC package?
I reckon this kind of thing would eat your power/cost advantages back into the x86 realm.
Re: System76 Will Start Designing and Building Its Own Linux Laptops in January 2020
#23I have a feeling the chances of them making a 16:10 or 3:2 laptop are slim to none.
I would buy that in a heartbeat
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#24Good luck to the team on this endeavor. I have never had a chance to use a laptop / workstation from them, but they must be doing something right since they have been around for a while now and that the community has nothing but great things to say about them.
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#25I love the concept of System76, full stop. What has kept me from seriously considering them, however, is the absence of AMD-powered systems from them. I understand the ubiquity of Intel-based hardware, but I don't full get why not even an option of an AMD-based system is available. If they're going to go their own way in terms of hardware design, I would hope that they at least opened a line of dialog with AMD to exp…
> I understand the ubiquity of Intel-based hardware, but I don't full get why not even an option of an AMD-based system is available.
Because it's hard enough to deal with a single silicon vendor, so they're looking for the one with the most bang for the buck and that was, before Ryzen, definitely Intel.
They might be ramping up with AMD now (or not, I don't know), but when you don't have pre-existing business relationships that takes a while before you're even at the stage of building prototypes. That space is rather complicated.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I still feel they should've used those resources to improve an existing distro instead of creating their own Since Pop_Os is derived from Ubuntu, you could argue that this is just what they did.
The point is, now there is yet another distro out there as its own island, stealing resources and not contributing to the rest of the community (including Ubuntu)
Like Ubuntu stole from Debian? And let's not forget that Debian is just stealing the hard work of the Linux and GNU developers...
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#27Awesome news. I bought a Darter Pro back in March and the experience has been great. I was a little hesitant at first because I'm not a Linux expert, but their team puts a lot of effort into making sure stuff with Pop_Os "just works." It might not be quite as polished as a macbook, but it's a comparable product at half the price, plus I get to support open source. Thelio looks amazing and I'm excited to see what they…
> but their team puts a lot of effort into making sure stuff with Pop_Os "just works."
I don't personally use it, but I've heard of people actually using it on other hardware just because the system is supposedly so polished. And maybe because it has better support for proprietary firmware? I forget.
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#28I love the concept of System76, full stop. What has kept me from seriously considering them, however, is the absence of AMD-powered systems from them. I understand the ubiquity of Intel-based hardware, but I don't full get why not even an option of an AMD-based system is available. If they're going to go their own way in terms of hardware design, I would hope that they at least opened a line of dialog with AMD to exp…
At least people know how to largely deactivate intel me, not so for the amd PSP stuff. :(
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#29I'm pulling for System76 in principle, but I've never been able to take the plunge on one because their chunkier Clevo/Sager-based designs have always paled aesthetically in comparison to the Dell XPS 13 line. Maybe that will finally change when they can design their own.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I still feel they should've used those resources to improve an existing distro instead of creating their own Since Pop_Os is derived from Ubuntu, you could argue that this is just what they did.
The point is, now there is yet another distro out there as its own island, stealing resources and not contributing to the rest of the community (including Ubuntu)
Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian... Presumably they are okay with it.