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Facebook: We don’t need your consent

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Re: Facebook: We don’t need your consent

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Post by buboard »

twobat wrote: post #24

As an user I feel that GDPR changed nothing. Google, Facebook and whatever else tracks you to the bones did not change one bit (for me). As a sys-admin, GDPR invented all sorts of jobs. Jobs well intended. But these jobs are filled by people that are neither lawyers nor IT people. Whenever I interact with them I feel like they just want to check some boxes that makes the org compliant and go home. They don't enforce…

plus nobody can be sure whether they 're GDPR compliant. I bet facebook thought so too.

Re: Facebook: We don’t need your consent

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Post by hugi »

buboard wrote: post #28

while they may have a point their arguments are not well articulated > Europe’s strict privacy laws actually it's EU's privacy regulation > Facebook openly admitted that it has been collecting and processing data without users’ consent They said that they ve been collecting WITH consent, at least with their definition of consent > To prove that no one ordered advertising from Facebook, we conducted a neutral study by…

As an EU citizen I believe it's time we shut Facebook off. They've shown no willingness to abide by our law, so I don't see why a criminal company should be allowed to continue to operate here.

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Post by bad_user »

buboard wrote: post #28

while they may have a point their arguments are not well articulated > Europe’s strict privacy laws actually it's EU's privacy regulation > Facebook openly admitted that it has been collecting and processing data without users’ consent They said that they ve been collecting WITH consent, at least with their definition of consent > To prove that no one ordered advertising from Facebook, we conducted a neutral study by…

Also important to mention... serving ads without consent is not ilegal under GDPR, what is illegal is user profiling with the purpose of serving ads.

In practice for Facebook the attraction for their ads platform is precisely that you can target fine grained demographics. So I'm not sure if Facebook can do anything here without a drop in revenue.

Re: Facebook: We don’t need your consent

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Post by pwinnski »

lokar wrote: post #7
thenewnewguy wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not the ads that are the problem, it's the widespread tracking + use of personal data that large ad networks like facebook perform. That's why they're using the _data protection_ legislature against facebook.

Just replace "ads" with "personalized ads" in the parent FB is free because they can pay for it with personalized ads. I doubt generic ads would fund the site as it stands today.

If generic ads can't fund FB, that's FB's problem.

FB does not have some sort of right-to-exist. Beyond that, if FB goes out of business completely, the world is arguably improved.

Re: Facebook: We don’t need your consent

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Post by buboard »

hugi wrote: post #43
buboard wrote: post #28

while they may have a point their arguments are not well articulated > Europe’s strict privacy laws actually it's EU's privacy regulation > Facebook openly admitted that it has been collecting and processing data without users’ consent They said that they ve been collecting WITH consent, at least with their definition of consent > To prove that no one ordered advertising from Facebook, we conducted a neutral study by…

As an EU citizen I believe it's time we shut Facebook off. They've shown no willingness to abide by our law, so I don't see why a criminal company should be allowed to continue to operate here.

we could switch to VK. try it, it's fast, and has a ton of pirated movies.

Re: Facebook: We don’t need your consent

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Post by hugi »

buboard wrote: post #28

while they may have a point their arguments are not well articulated > Europe’s strict privacy laws actually it's EU's privacy regulation > Facebook openly admitted that it has been collecting and processing data without users’ consent They said that they ve been collecting WITH consent, at least with their definition of consent > To prove that no one ordered advertising from Facebook, we conducted a neutral study by…

As an EU citizen I believe it's time we close Facebook off. They've shown no willingness to abide by our law so I don't see why a criminal entity should be allowed to continue operating here.

Re: Facebook: We don’t need your consent

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Post by chmod775 »

buboard wrote: post #36
sgift wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In any case, i don't think facebook cares too much anymore and will just pay another yearly fine for operating in the EU. Time to push the amounts up. 2% of worldwide annual revenue per infraction (e.g. per user) should start to add up after a while.

at worst, facebook will pull out of EU and close its irish HQ (but probably still be tracking users). Who won?

> Who won?

Whichever European social network replaces them.

Facebook is a freak social network considering how long it has survived. People used to migrate every one to two years.

Re: Facebook: We don’t need your consent

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Post by freejulian85 »

oarabbus_ wrote: post #44
astrodev wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The European people, actually.

Could you elaborate?

Facebook is trivial to recreate. The only thing that’s hard is convincing users to rebuild their social network. Shutdown Facebook and a more worthy contender will trivially take its place.
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