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The 40% Keyboard

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Re: The 40% Keyboard

#71
Not for me, thanks.

I have a ... I don't know, it's like a 60% but with added arrows and ins/del/home/end/pgup/pgdn off to the right like on a 80%, but it's not a 80% or a standard 75% because there's no F key row.

I wouldn't want to go any smaller, I already have an extra 'super' key to access F functions, and I already have minor issues just with the physical size. Maybe I have big hands? Either way, I like the desk space back, but I think there are limits here.

Re: The 40% Keyboard

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Call me cynical, but I think a lot of the small style keyboards I see around the office are more of a fashion trend than anything. I remember when the insistence was on number pads, and how dare they be removed from our laptops and desktop keyboards. Fast forward a few years and I was made fun of at a programming job for preferring a full keyboard with a number pads. I guess programmers are too cool to enter in dolla…

I think full size keyboards look ugly and take up too much desk space. That's just my personal opinion. I don't like how there's almost an inch of plastic along the borders of the keyboard that take up desk space while providing no purpose. Imagine a monitor with an inch of bevel around the edges, it'd be unsightly.

Re: The 40% Keyboard

#73
post #7

Call me cynical, but I think a lot of the small style keyboards I see around the office are more of a fashion trend than anything. I remember when the insistence was on number pads, and how dare they be removed from our laptops and desktop keyboards. Fast forward a few years and I was made fun of at a programming job for preferring a full keyboard with a number pads. I guess programmers are too cool to enter in dolla…

I thought the same as you until I used a planck[1].

I thought not having direct access to numbers or symbols would be a pain, but it really wasn't. The typing experience was comfortable and my wpm went up. I would say I still prefer something in the 60% range (HHKB) layout, ideally with dedicated arrow keys.

[1] https://olkb.com/planck

Re: The 40% Keyboard

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you quickly access the other layers to do a semicolon or colon or space with those keyboards? Saw a photo-- it's all letters.

Using software such as QMK you can program these custom boards to do anything. To answer your question all keys are accessible by turning whichever key you like into a modifier when held down so you can access another layer. It's not that bad when you realize through your entire life you do the same thing with SHIFT to capitalize letters for example. All of these small boards are just an extension of that concept.

Sounds fun! Thanks for the reply.

Re: The 40% Keyboard

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But my WASD keys and my mouse are exactly shoulder width apart. If I didn't have a numpad I'd just have a gap between my mousepad and my keyboard.

Which means you don't have a good position when typing? I bought a 40% split keyboard and had my mouse inbetween the halves and it relieved my joint pains. Now, I work on old mainframes and need up to function key F24, but otherwise the 40% works wonders with thumbs on modifier keys.

If you define "a good position" as "a comfortable position" then my typing position is fine for the work I do. I've tried various options, from the curvy Microsoft Natural keyboards to laptop keyboards to mini keyboards and I always come back to a standard mechanical 101-key keyboard with a G502 mouse. I think a split keyboard with the mouse in between the halves would do my head in.

Re: The 40% Keyboard

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post #7

Call me cynical, but I think a lot of the small style keyboards I see around the office are more of a fashion trend than anything. I remember when the insistence was on number pads, and how dare they be removed from our laptops and desktop keyboards. Fast forward a few years and I was made fun of at a programming job for preferring a full keyboard with a number pads. I guess programmers are too cool to enter in dolla…

> Small style keyboards I'm optimistic about them (depending on what "small style keyboards" mean to you). I consider ergodox in this category, due to how it does ctrl/z, function keys and layers. Ergodox-EZ is quite beautiful. The build quality on it is solid. It's heavy, for a keyboard. This is not a logitech or microsoft keyboard where they cynically use cheap materials. But, there are these "small" hacks: It join…

> But, there are these "small" hacks: It joins Z with the ctrl key. Z has to be hit twice to type Z. Sounds like the end of the world, right?

I'm not sure I'm reading you correctly, but you do know that you can change the layout, right?

https://ergodox-ez.com/pages/oryx

Re: The 40% Keyboard

#79

Check out KeyMouse, super cool concept.

I have one. It's too heavy and bulky for a mouse, and too flat & unergonomic for a keyboard. There are lots of pinky keys I find very difficult or impossible to reach when the hand is resting in the natural position on the device. And you don't want to move the hand too much around or you end up moving the mouse... Honestly the tiny little mouse buttons suck too.

Re: The 40% Keyboard

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post #7

Call me cynical, but I think a lot of the small style keyboards I see around the office are more of a fashion trend than anything. I remember when the insistence was on number pads, and how dare they be removed from our laptops and desktop keyboards. Fast forward a few years and I was made fun of at a programming job for preferring a full keyboard with a number pads. I guess programmers are too cool to enter in dolla…

In my case I do really enjoy typing with the 40%, I like the size and the feel of the keys. I only use it at home though, I'm not interested showing off or looking trendy. My hand movement is very minimal and it's a million times better than my macbook keyboard.
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